And what about the women who dont want the life you offer them? If women want to live like you talk about, thats fine, but it should be their choice. Many wouldnt want that. Many would want to take care of themselves, would want to dress differently and would want to take charge of their lives. Some women actually want to rule or train martial arts or study the sky. And they should be free to do so, just like any man is free to do so.
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Muslim Brotherhood Statement Denouncing UN Women Declaration for Violating Sharia Principles
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I hope you dont get hit by a car the next time you walk down the street, but I sure am not going to lock you in your home because of it.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I have examined many things; I most definitely do not need a man to take care of me, to protect me, or to provide for me. Any man who thinks he is in charge of me, and who would think that I need his permission to do anything, or would demand I do things,or expect me to be submissive to him is not someone I would ever be able to be with. Anyone who thinks women are not equal to men is someone I cannot be with.
F0uad
Well-Known Member
People here do not understand that Islam is a way of life moreover woman themselves choose these ways a woman cant be forced.
To point something out the most converts to Islam in the west are woman and not man so there is definitely something wrong in how the west portraits women in comparison with Islam.
Also i have heard many converts say that they felt themselves free in Islam instead of being a product of society.
To point something out the most converts to Islam in the west are woman and not man so there is definitely something wrong in how the west portraits women in comparison with Islam.
Also i have heard many converts say that they felt themselves free in Islam instead of being a product of society.
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Sorry u completely disagree... Ppl were living a better life before isl
And nonmuslims actually Enjoi better life in their own terms.. So the notion isl
Is the only true way of life is stupid..when u keep telling
Ppl fr
Sorry i completely disagree... Ppl were living a better life before isl
And nonmuslims actually Enjoi better life in their own terms.. So the notion isl
Is the only true way of life is stupid..
When kids r taught up with certain things they will live with it... Regarding converts, they find peace in islam so be it...
But to say that others r not living a good and free life is incorrect
islam abduallah
Active Member
Indeed you don't understand me its may due to my poor engkish, to summerize all of that, its up to you to be muslim or not, you have the free will to choose but if you have a muslim (female) friend just ask her how does she feel,women are the best to express themselves by tge way I talked to my wife about she's feeling , she answered like a queen, islam makes her feel she's a queen, so if you found the same answer you then have to know that its too different than you are thinking as we don't understand it as permission its somethig else just try to ask a muslim aroubd you
When my wife tells me that, that means that I act as a servant and really I don't feel bad kf that
If one of my friends would answer like that then I would of course respect it. I am merely advocating choice, that women are allowed to choose their path. And due to my own background I know a queens life isnt for everyone (I have some rather unconventional women in my family), and they should be respected even if they choose something that isnt a "womans path", so to speak. Protection against rapists and such should be dealt with through law enforcement and by working socially with peoples attitudes and all that rather then dictating how women should live.
Also, my point was that you cannot protect someone from risks, since no matter what you do there are always risks.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Angelina converted to Islam and her mother said my daughter is happier now and her father said i am proud of her.
[youtube]1IZtCdXk2f8[/youtube]
Angelina is a Muslim Now - YouTube
One more example
[youtube]rF6FmH5vzz4[/youtube]
YouTube - non muslim australian converted to islam.Great!.flv - YouTube
6 converts all girls
[youtube]PWheLoqBQFQ[/youtube]
6 Australian Woman convert to Islam - YouTube
Wonderful smart women here
[youtube]K-SZYr-JB7U[/youtube]
Beach Girls | Tamarindo Costa Rica - YouTube
[youtube]1IZtCdXk2f8[/youtube]
Angelina is a Muslim Now - YouTube
One more example
[youtube]rF6FmH5vzz4[/youtube]
YouTube - non muslim australian converted to islam.Great!.flv - YouTube
6 converts all girls
[youtube]PWheLoqBQFQ[/youtube]
6 Australian Woman convert to Islam - YouTube
Wonderful smart women here
[youtube]K-SZYr-JB7U[/youtube]
Beach Girls | Tamarindo Costa Rica - YouTube
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
What does this have to do with anything?
Other than showing some people go to the beach and get a tan?
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Yes i know,they are free women and cute,nothing else.:hearts:
They are as human and as worthy of respect as the women in your other videos.
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
Why show them as a comparison?
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Talking about freedom of women.
Muslim women aren't free to wear bikini,that is the comparison.
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
Is that a negative or a positive?
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Did i say anything about them,yes they are respected too and i loved them.
But muslim women aren't free to do so,nothing else.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
For me and honestly saying i prefer the woman that hide her attraction from the strangers,
but that is my opinion which may differ from the others.
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
While I understand where you're coming from, I think this needs to be put into perspective a little bit:
a) are not showing their 'attraction' to strangers, they're getting a tan
b) they're on a beach - too much clothing makes things awkward
c) it's a different location from ordinary life with different context and values on modesty. Wearing a bikini is not immodest on a beach in most Western cultures; in fact, in many places, going topless or even nude isn't immodest. Context is very, very important.
d) it's a different country
e) most people will not regard them as showing their 'attraction'. They're not getting their boobs out for people's enjoyment.
and of course, the most important one:
f) it's their choice whether they want to wear or reveal: I've seen people on beaches wearing more conservative clothing that haven't gone to great extremes.
Did i say anything about them,yes they are respected too and i loved them.
But muslim women aren't free to do so,nothing else.
OK, I'll bite.
If, according to your contention that a woman in a bikini is just as respected as a woman fully covered and wearing hijab, then why are Muslim women not free to wear a bikini on a beach?
Given they're both to be respected and treated as such.
Do you equate wearing a bikini with something?