Is it the dress or that people can see her in it thats the problem? Would she be free to do so if she was alone on a beach (lets say no one else knows about it but her)?Did i say anything about them,yes they are respected too and i loved them.
But muslim women aren't free to do so,nothing else.
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Looncall
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Why do you prefer that?
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
OK,Bite.
As a man yes i respect their bodies.
i liked the cameraman too,good shots.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Maybe i am complicated or uncivilized but thats it, i prefer the one
hiding her body to be as my wife.
Respecting their bodies is not the same as respecting them, thoughOK,Bite.
As a man yes i respect their bodies.
i liked the cameraman too,good shots.
. A woman is not her body. She is a person, and that person is the one who should be respected. The body should be respected (i.e. dont try and grab her butt or things like that) because its the body of a person.There is nothing wrong with wearing a bikini. There is also nothing wrong with not wearing one. Neither is uncivilized
. However, assuming someone is immoral or in any way less then a person because of how they dress... thats a different matter (not saying you are, btw).
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Of course alone on a beach with the family,no problem at all.
That is actually what happening.
OK,Bite.
As a man yes i respect their bodies.
i liked the cameraman too,good shots.
That doesn't answer the question why Muslim women are not free to wear a bikini on a beach. Why is that, according to you?
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Respecting their bodies is not the same as respecting them, though
i know,but thats my feeling and the cameraman.
Maybe i am a bad guy.
But if that how you feel when you see a woman in bikini, maybe you just shouldnt go to the beachi know,but thats my feeling and the cameraman.
Maybe i am a bad guy.
? Rather then suggestion women shouldnt wear them?
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Simply because of the Islamic teachings.
When woman convert to Islam,she had to do the same thing,hide her body's attraction.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
But if that how you feel when you see a woman in bikini, maybe you just shouldnt go to the beach
Yes, God also ordered men to lower their gaze .
But here it is the candid Camera showing men responce to woman's body
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If she is to be respected regardless, then what is she hiding from?
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
i think god wants respect for woman other than just to be a sex object.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
And the places this resolution is aimed are places where women do not have a choice. It is be fully submissive to your husband, tolerate being less than a second class citizen, or face heavy and dire consequences. Of course there are Muslim women throughout the world who these problems do not apply to. But in a handful on Muslim nations even a pile of dog crap is treated better than women are. There is simply no reason, at all, what-so-ever that it should ever be tolerated that a woman must have her husbands permission to leave the house (which is the law in some Muslim nations), that she is viewed as less than a man in the eyes of the law, and that she cannot press charges of domestic and/or sexual abuse against her husband or file for a divorce. Those things do go on, and it should be a goal for all of humanity to bring such treatment to an end.
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F0uad
Well-Known Member
You can't be forced when you don't marry the guy, woman's have to accept a marriage and they can also divorce according to Islam.
The rest of the garbage you wrote is not wroth replying to, thanks for your input but i pass.
Aquitaine
Well-Known Member
I noticed how your caption for the last video (of the Women sunbathing) was a sarcastic insult: "Wonderfull smart Women here". As if to say that a Muslim Woman who wears a Niqab = smart, happy, moral yet a Woman sunbathing at a beach = immoral and dumb. To me that just shows that YOU are the one objectifying them as sex objects.
By the way you are aware that Niqab-wearing women in Muslim countries are victims of rape and sexual harassment too, right? So to me that seems to point out that the solution is to teach Males how to control their sexual urges, rather than teaching Females to cover-up.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Tell women in places such as Saudi Arabia, Iran, or the U.A.E. just how much of a choice they have. Even female tourist to the U.A.E. have had problems with the local rape laws.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jan/29/dubai-rape-women-middle-east
As for the garbage, if you think it is garbage that a woman is fully equal to a man then that says alot about the person you are.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Who talked about rapes and sexual harassment.
We are talking about women's freedom.
Did you accuse me that i am portraying women as a sex object while actually they are
taking sunbathing.
So what you call those kind of dancing,Physical exercise.
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