hey, I think I know that one! that means "lolz!", right?
(I'm sorry, I'm sorry )
you becomes good in arabic :clap
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hey, I think I know that one! that means "lolz!", right?
(I'm sorry, I'm sorry )
don't tell me,maybe Rihanna and Chris Brown are Muslims :bow:I have seen the argument here, by a Muslim, that it is acceptable for a husband to slap or "softly" hit his wife if she is "wrong". That it makes her feel more "feminine" and that it proves she is with a "man". That this is acceptable within Islam.
Is this stance something actually accepted within Islam? That physical punishment of a wife by her husband is the norm and okay? Or is this a fringe thought held only by some Muslims?
I know that men of all different faiths, and non-faith, will sometimes treat their wives and GFs like this, but I don't believe it is actually a held and accepted tenet of any other religion that I know of that this kind of behavior is okay.
So, can some Muslims here please address if this is actually an accepted practice or do you feel it is a fringe idea used as justification for abuse?
Emotional harm is just as bad as physical harm, you know .thank you very much ,yeah , that's what i mean
soft beat or what i called slap of love , it's doesnt cause physical harm , its about emotionnal harm . exaclty as you said .
Are you saying all women want to be strippers and that it takes a man to keep them from it :areyoucra?strippers are strippers because their husbands did not jeoulous for them , they are just we can call them cuckolds .
If you think that beating a woman will make her respect you, then I suspect you may be beyond help.the definition of insubordinate is on general is disobey to do the rights of her husband or miss treating him (mis respect him ).
agreed , but you don't adress for my post of Rihanna that beating by Chris ? inspite of that she continous love him !!!!Emotional harm is just as bad as physical harm, you know .
maybe this is one of causes , why not ?Are you saying all women want to be strippers and that it takes a man to keep them from it :areyoucra?
as i see here , the respect earned and sometimes deserverd in the west, for the situation of Muslim wife it's her duty to respect you and obey you .God order her to obey her husband and order her husband to care about his wife because if he could not earn it , he deserver it .If you think that beating a woman will make her respect you, then I suspect you may be beyond help.
I sincerely hope that you never marry. I wouldn't wish a life with you on any woman.
I just hope that you're a Poe, even though you haven't broken character yet. Your view is so extreme that I find it very hard to believe that you think it's normal.
موضوع صفعة الحب هذا هو عبارة عن تجربة انا عشتها لا علاقة لها بوضوع
ضرب الناشز..... صحيح انو هناك حديث ينصح بعدم ضرب الوجة
what about box ? ,honestly I am affraid that some couples are doing Karatee .
si !!! , je parle un peu (pas bien ) le français , parce que je suis Algérienne
I dont know much about that case, but I never said that you cannot love someone who has done bad things to you. I just said it is wrong to beat your wife.agreed , but you don't adress for my post of Rihanna that beating by Chris ? inspite of that she continous love him !!!!
I dont know. Personally, I dont like stripping so I would tell her that, maybe try and convince her to do something else. Would basically talk to her. If it is what she really wanted? I dont know. In worse case I would maybe break up with her. But I would never raise my hand against her. And if you blame me for her choice then you may just as well blame the police for not stalking her to make sure she doesnt become a stripper, or the doctors for not implanting her with an anti-strip chip.maybe this is one of causes , why not ?
i have a question to you , if your daugher or your wife want to be stripper , and you refuse/against that , and she insist to be stripper , you will let her easly or try to stop her ? because you will feel shame " because of that of course" in your family and your neighbords and at work ....etc
Because love makes people do crazy things?don't tell me,maybe Rihanna and Chris Brown are Muslims :bow:
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Rihanna Still Loves Chris Brown After the Assault! LOVE IS BLIND....... - YouTube
do you have any explaination/idea why Rihanna forgive Chris Brown because he beating her ? why she is not put him in jail ?
شكرا اخي اعلم هذا جيدا ولكن انا كنت اتحدث عن تجربتي الخاصة و دائما اقول انها ليس لها علاقة بتعاليم الدينأخي لا يوجد شئ اسمه "صفعة الحب" الصفعة لا علاقة لها بالحب إطلاقاً و إنما هي إهانة للكرامة الإنسانية و محرمة تماماً
I don't required to marry any strong woman , or karaté woman,the life would be very dangerous:areyoucraWell, if you're going to slap your wife be prepared for a lot of karate.
Only if you try and slap her .I don't required to marry any strong woman , or karaté woman,the life would be very dangerous:areyoucra
acuatly soft beat is don't harm .
it's disgusting and pathetic for you , for me not .
exactly as you see the strips women normal in the west , i see it's digusting and forbiden in my religions .
Jesus was not God , I am talking for abuse in general , as I know you blame "EVE" that she was the cause of orginal sin !!!
which Jesus (pbuh) killed because of her sin "as you believe "
In this case Jesus (pbuh) abused because female sin .
acuatly you religion abuse the woman ,because it's the responsible of that sin .
ok can you explain these verse from the bible , which almost order the women to surbordinate to her husband . and make different between the men and women !!!!!
1 Corinthians 14:34 NIV Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law.
1 Corinthians 14:35If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the.
11 A woman[[URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+2%3A11-12&version=NIV#fen-NIV-29728a"]a] should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;[b] she must be quiet. [/URL]
1 Tm:2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1 Timothy 2:14
14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Eph:5:22
22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
Ephesians 5:23
23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior.
Eph:5:24
Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
the killing is other subject . I told you the verses of Quran mention to war statement , (that you would want to post here )
somepeople accept to be wrong , as the smokers and drinkers ....etc , I am sure if you contact Rihanna and tell her that Chris Brown was wrong , she will tell you it's not your business , Chris Brown is not her husband and beat her hardly , and she decide to forgive him (not to jail him) . it's her decission ,exaclty as the any women to accept to be beated or slapped by religious or not religious authority .I dont know much about that case, but I never said that you cannot love someone who has done bad things to you. I just said it is wrong to beat your wife.
I dont know. Personally, I dont like stripping so I would tell her that, maybe try and convince her to do something else. Would basically talk to her. If it is what she really wanted? I dont know. In worse case I would maybe break up with her. But I would never raise my hand against her. And if you blame me for her choice then you may just as well blame the police for not stalking her to make sure she doesnt become a stripper, or the doctors for not implanting her with an anti-strip chip.
Regarding shame, I dont like that line of thought at all. Its... egoistic. Dont know how else to describe it. Just seem like... someone who values their own social status and personal convenience more then their wife. Something is very, very wrong with that picture. Of course, it is likely I am misunderstanding what you mean, and if I do sorry for that .
no of course ,but fault started when she accept to continous living with that gay .By the way, do you think it is the wifes fault if the husband starts to strip for women?
I've seen nothing in anything you've said that would suggest that you deserve the respect of any woman.as i see here , the respect earned and sometimes deserverd in the west, for the situation of Muslim wife it's her duty to respect you and obey you .God order her to obey her husband and order her husband to care about his wife because if he could not earn it , he deserver it .
I was asked about it, so I answered it . Doesnt really matter if she forgives him or not, as I said it is just plain wrong to slap your partner. Whatever she chooses to do about it, that is her choice I guess, and I dont know enough about the topic to tell her what to do. From the video you posted Chris kind of sounds like a jerk, though.somepeople accept to be wrong , as the smokers and drinkers ....etc , I am sure if you contact Rihanna and tell her that Chris Brown was wrong , she will tell you it's not your business , Chris Brown is not her husband and beat her hardly , and she decide to forgive him (not to jail him) . it's her decission ,exaclty as the any women to accept to be beated or slapped by religious or not religious authority .
I love science fiction, if you cannot tell .anti-stripchip :run: , next time we will have anti-adultery ?
Honor and dignity is one of the primary reasons not to slap her, because there is no honor or dignity in such an act. To loose control in such a manner would actually be the opposite of an honorable act.I supposed to you that were your daughter or your wife .and thank you for repond my suppose .
for my opinion , in real life , I am sure that your reaction is will pass more than "talking" , because it's not matter of game , it's your degnity and your honor , all the people will joking behind your back (I see his ex-wife striping last night , she had big ....and nice .... )
And in what way is that different to when a woman wants to strip?no of course ,but fault started when she accept to continous living with that gay .
شكرا اخي اعلم هذا جيدا ولكن انا كنت اتحدث عن تجربتي الخاصة و دائما اقول انها ليس لها علاقة بتعاليم الدين
..... ولكن في راي نحن في الواقع شيء و الكلام النظري شيء اخر
I don't required to marry any strong woman , or karaté woman,the life would be very dangerous:areyoucra
c'était juste un test pour connais votre niveau , alors dit moi quelle est votre nationalité , j'ai un doute , que vous êtes origine de l'Égypte, non ?
انا قد شرحت هذا عدت مرات ....وقلت انني اخطاة عندما طرحت تجربتي هناأعتقد أننا لا يجب أن ندخل التجارب الشخصية مثل تلك في نقاشات عن الإسلام حتى لا يختلط الأمران
my futur wife will let me do what ever i want . she is mind .It wouldn't be dangerous if you treat her well. If you slap her then she has every right to defend herself from your abuse.
je sais pas .Oui, Je suis natif Egyptien. Pourquoi doutes-tu que?
Many case easly we can deny God if we want to deny , for exemple ,the story of killing of Jesus (pbuh)that the christains believe, for me the God who did not defend for him self or his son , it's not deserver to be God .I've seen nothing in anything you've said that would suggest that you deserve the respect of any woman.
And frankly, any God who did command the things you say your God commanded would be unfit to worship, IMO.
I believe you're reading into this too much and giving yourself more power than you are actually able to wield.my futur wife will let me do what ever i want . she is mind .
I have seen the argument here, by a Muslim, that it is acceptable for a husband to slap or "softly" hit his wife if she is "wrong". That it makes her feel more "feminine" and that it proves she is with a "man". That this is acceptable within Islam.
Is this stance something actually accepted within Islam? That physical punishment of a wife by her husband is the norm and okay? Or is this a fringe thought held only by some Muslims?
I know that men of all different faiths, and non-faith, will sometimes treat their wives and GFs like this, but I don't believe it is actually a held and accepted tenet of any other religion that I know of that this kind of behavior is okay.
So, can some Muslims here please address if this is actually an accepted practice or do you feel it is a fringe idea used as justification for abuse?