Not quite... Jesus contradicts paul quite often. The gospels contradict each other too. For example who was the father of Joseph the husband of Mary? Jacob (Matthew 1:16) or Heli (Luke 3:23)?
Countless other contradictions can be pointed out throughout the OT & NT. I'm surprised this is news to you.
There is no contradiction if we understood Scriptures correctly.
In scriptures father can be a biological father, or it can mean someone else who is spiritually father!
There are similar things in the Quran too.
See, Quran says Mary is sister of Aaron!. Whereas Mary lived more than a thousand years after Aaron. So, this sisterhood or fatherhood are purely spiritual.
If anyone just wants to find errors in Quran or Bible they can. Do you know what I mean? Some have said that Muhammad mixed up Miriam with Mary, because sister of Aaron was Miriam, not Mary!
But if we go with your logic, it means Quran is wrong too. So, we need to be fair in treating Bible.
Early Christian Writings: New Testament, Apocrypha, Gnostics, Church Fathers
Pick any book from the 4 gospels and you'll see that the authors are anonymous. If you don't trust a Christian website, go and see it in Wikipedia or Encyclopedia Britannica. Seems like you have a lot of research to do
I have read the Bible many times and discussed those details. There is no contradiction if one understood the scriptures correctly.
But if one's goal is to show Bible is wrong, they can pick many things, just as one can pick many errors in the Quran. That is easy to do, but it is either not an honest and sincere approach or too shallow.
Too many reasons to name at one go. Clearly, an unreliable book and you can start with the authorship. The OT is a mess too fyi.
The OT have some chapters which are not by the Prophets, rather history. But the main part of the OT, which is Torah has true teachings of Moses and Prophets.
By the way, when, where and how the Bible got corrupted. If you claim this, you need to prove what, where and how that happened.
The intention was never to preserve them. Since the message was only for their people. Plus, Allah entrusted it on them to protect their books. But they failed.
Again you are coming up with a reason that Allah never said that. When did Allah say, He never wanted to preserve His Book?
Remember, Quran days, Muhammad can be found in Bible. Notice that, nowhere in the Quran says, the Bible text was corrupted. So if you say that, you are saying something that Allah did not say!.
Moreover, if you think Muhammad was in the Bible but somehow the Book became corrupted, then why didn't Allah preserve the Bible so people can now see clearly Muhammad was in the Bible?
Do you know where in the Quran makes that claim that Muhammad can be found in the Quran, or you want me quote it?
Those that believed in Jesus (3s) were saved, and those that rejected him were not.
But you are saying the Bible is corrupted, so how could they believe in Jesus correctly?
Remember the Bible says Jesus is son of God!. So, according to you, God left them with a Book that gave them false beliefs about Jesus for centuries! How could they have been saved if they believed Allah had a son, as the Bible apparently says? I hope you understand that, Quran was revealed about 600 years later. So, then all those Christians people who lived before the Quran had many false beliefs, because they had believed the Bible is Word of God, and Allah did not care to do anything about it till 600 years later, as if those people were worthless!
No, your stories doesn't add up. I am sorry to say that.
To take the Children of Isreal out of the prison of a religion they were in as a Mercy from their Lord.
What does that mean?
Remember the Jews believe in One God.
Now when Jesus came, they believed there is Son of God, Holy Spirit as well. All of it is in Bible. So, according to you, their belief became even more wrong because at least prior to Jesus they believed God is one.
So, again what benefit Jesus had, if according to you, all His teachings became corrupted, and even caused people to become more misguided than before?
See, according to your story, Allah totally failed!. How can one believe in this version of Islam?
I am sorry my friend if I am too honest with you.
Allah tells us that every nation was given its own way to follow God. It was only Muhammad (saw) that is claimed to be a messenger for all humanity.
How does that interpretation work even?
According to this, then if Jesus was sent to Jews only, and not Arabs, how were the Arabs guided prior to Muhammad?
According to your explanation, then Arabs were left without a guidance until finally Muhammad came!
No, it doesnt add up.
This is it, if you don't like the plain text, then that's your issue buddy. I can't force my ideas on anyone.
There could be historical connotations that one can investigate. Feel free to do so.
Yes, there is historical or Hadithes on that.
Here is an example:
Al-Husayn ibn Muhammad has narrated from MuAlia ibn Muhammad from Muhammad ibn ’Uwarma from Ali ibn Hassan from ‘Abd al-Rahman ibn Kathir from abu ‘bdallah (a.s.) who has said the following. "People well-grounded in Knowledge stands for Amir al-Mu’minin
Ali (a.s.) and the Imams after him."
See, pleade don't get defensive my friend. I am not saying Shia is the true sect and sunni is false. I am not even Muslim, so I am not taking sides here.
But I am saying both Sunni and Shia could have many beneficial and correct traditions. So, why not learning for both traditions? Maybe fanaticism doesn't allow us?
Now, there are verses in the Quran, that even according to Sunni traditions, Ali was given a special knowledge by Allah!.
So, now, these Hadithes have chains and they are compatible with the Quran.
These leaders weren't prophets or messengers, as you can see from the ayah you are referring to, (5:12) Allah gives them a list of commands and one of them is to support the messengers and believe in them. So clearly they can't be messengers either. You are shooting in the dark here not realizing that there's no target.
Dear, if Allah communicated with them as you are even saying, that means they were the Prophets. Even as Quran names one of them as king David!
David was a prophet and one of the Leaders. So, the question remains, why Islam does not have such Leaders appointed by Allah?
Or maybe the Shia is right about that one? I am not saying Shia is right about everything. But notice, I'm speaking specifically about this leadership belief.
The reason Allah decreed it, is because this is how it played out. And as I clearly said. I believe that Muhammad (saw) could have alluded to Ali being the first caliph. I don't deny that. But Allah had other plans.
If we go with your idea, then the belief in 12 Imams could be true as well, because these Twelve did live in Islam and Allah played it out.
Just because the majority of Muslims do not believe them, it does not mean they are right.
There is a verse in Quran that says, the majority could be wrong sometimes:
"If you follow the majority of people on the earth, they will lead you astray from the path of God, for they follow only conjecture and surmise" 6:116
In fact there are several Hadithes that the majority of Muslims are not guided to the right path:
"You would tread the same path as was trodden by those before you inch by inch and step by step so much so that if they had entered into the hole of the lizard, you would follow them in this also. We said: Allah's Messenger, do you mean Jews and Christians (by your words)" those before you"? He said: Who else (than those two religious groups)?"
Sahih Muslim 2669a - The Book of Knowledge - كتاب العلم - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)
“My ummah will divide into 73 sects, all of them will be in the Fire except for one, and that is the Jamā’ah.” It was said, “And who are they, O Allah’s Messenger?” He (salallāhu ‘alaihi wasallam) responded, “That which I and my Companions are upon today.”
Such Hadithes are repeated in several sources and are compatible with the Quran.
Because one of the main reasons Allah sent Muhammad was to unite Arabs into one religion, and save then from the Fire:
"And hold firmly to the rope of Allah and
do not be divided. Remember Allah’s favour upon you when you were enemies,
then He united your hearts, so you—by His grace—became brothers. And you were at the brink of a fiery pit and He saved you from it. This is how Allah makes His revelations clear to you, so that you may be ˹rightly˺ guided." 3:103
So, now consider after more than 1400 years, that brotherhood and unity is lost. How many times Sunni and Shia fought abd killed each other and still do upto now.
It means, the Muslims have become divided and returned to their previous state. So, those Hadithes that I quoted are compatible with the Quran and thus true.
