My views on homosexuality

[Storm]

It's unfortunate that you went to all that trouble to make a point to me because the fact of the matter is -- I don't believe in the bible as being truth. It's fairy tales.

You might do better using that on someone who's into religion. On me...? Not so much.

Then why don't you answer the question presented to you twice: who or what did not intend people to be gay?

(That's three.)

 

[McBell]

My response was to reflect that just because animals do it, don't make it natural for humans to do it.

Simpler for you?

NOW you are moving the goal posts.

 

[Father Heathen]

Wrong. The bible is a book of fairy tales.

Sometimes assumptions don't pay do they?

May I ask what sort of religious or philosophical ideology you follow? What do you base your ethics and morality upon? Knowing such would help us understand your point of view.

 

[thebigpicture]

Yet another bold claim with absolutely nothing to support it.
You are really good at that.

problem is that it just does not fly on this forum and you start losing credibility.

Had to laugh at this remark. And I mean laugh. Hey! Dude. If it works for you to see it that way then run with it I say. Run!

Oh, by the way, I'm sorry but I have no idea what you mean by strawman. Explain?

 

[Father Heathen]

Oh, by the way, I'm sorry but I have no idea what you mean by strawman. Explain?

Straw man - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[McBell]

Oh, by the way, I'm sorry but I have no idea what you mean by strawman. Explain?

Strawman

 

[Otherright]

Everyone feel free to jump in on this.

If you were a person that said the bible was fairy tales but yet said that homosexuality was morally wrong. Where do you think that person got the idea of it being morally wrong, and how do you think that person would justify that idea.

I would ask someone that actually had that view, but they won't reply to why they think it is morally wrong. They keep skirting that question. So, I leave it to you guys to draw a conclusion.

How would you justify it?

Any thoughts Storm, Father Heathen, Mestemia, anybody, any thoughts?

 

[McBell]

Had to laugh at this remark. And I mean laugh. Hey! Dude. If it works for you to see it that way then run with it I say. Run!

Your sloppy attempt at transference is most comical.
Though not the least bit surprising.

 

[Storm]

Everyone feel free to jump in on this.

If you were a person that said the bible was fairy tales but yet said that homosexuality was morally wrong. Where do you think that person got the idea of it being morally wrong, and how do you think that person would justify that idea.

I would ask someone that actually had that view, but they won't reply to why they think it is morally wrong. They keep skirting that question. So, I leave it to you guys to draw a conclusion.

How would you justify it?

Any thoughts Storm, Father Heathen, Mestemia, anybody, any thoughts?

Probably because he finds it "icky" and feels like that makes it alright to force his preferences on others.

 

[Otherright]

Strawman

You shouldn't have done that. There is no way he is going to understand what that means.

 

[McBell]

Everyone feel free to jump in on this.

If you were a person that said the bible was fairy tales but yet said that homosexuality was morally wrong. Where do you think that person got the idea of it being morally wrong, and how do you think that person would justify that idea.

I would ask someone that actually had that view, but they won't reply to why they think it is morally wrong. They keep skirting that question. So, I leave it to you guys to draw a conclusion.

How would you justify it?

Any thoughts Storm, Father Heathen, Mestemia, anybody, any thoughts?

Could be what is called the "gross factor".
He finds it gross therefore it is automatically immoral.

Some people merely grasp at whatever straws they can to support their bigotry.

Some people are just dishonest with themselves.

Which one(s) (if any I have listed) apply, I have no idea.

 

[thebigpicture]

So now we have to figure out if you are really that ignorant about logic or if you are just that dishonest....

Dude, didn't you say this exact thing to me during another debate?

Alrighty, um, I'm afraid I'm gonna have to cut you off until you make some sense. I mean, I have to be honest. You have some really immature traits that I'm not willing to entertain. It's obvious that you're writing things just purely for the sake of disagreeing. Let me know when you are ready to make valid points instead of just spewing out rubbish. Until then, I can't waste anymore time on you when I can be answering valid points from other posters.

 

[Storm]

Dude, didn't you say this exact thing to me during another debate?

Alrighty, um, I'm afraid I'm gonna have to cut you off until you make some sense. I mean, I have to be honest. You have some really immature traits that I'm not willing to entertain. It's obvious that you're writing things just purely for the sake of disagreeing. Let me know when you are ready to make valid points instead of just spewing out rubbish. Until then, I can't waste anymore time on you when I can be answering valid points from other posters.

 

[McBell]

Dude, didn't you say this exact thing to me during another debate?

Did I?
Well, if I did, you can at least say you are consistent, eh?

Alrighty, um, I'm afraid I'm gonna have to cut you off until you make some sense. I mean, I have to be honest. You have some really immature traits that I'm not willing to entertain. It's obvious that you're writing things just purely for the sake of disagreeing. Let me know when you are ready to make valid points instead of just spewing out rubbish. Until then, I can't waste anymore time on you when I can be answering valid points from other posters.

So running tail tucked is an admirable trait for you?

 

[Otherright]

Dude, didn't you say this exact thing to me during another debate?

Alrighty, um, I'm afraid I'm gonna have to cut you off until you make some sense. I mean, I have to be honest. You have some really immature traits that I'm not willing to entertain. It's obvious that you're writing things just purely for the sake of disagreeing. Let me know when you are ready to make valid points instead of just spewing out rubbish. Until then, I can't waste anymore time on you when I can be answering valid points from other posters.

I'm sure he will if you can tell him or any of us what makes it morally wrong? Morality meaning a sense of behavioral conduct that differentiates intentions, decisions, and actions between those that are good (or right) and bad (or wrong).

So when we say moral, we mean that sense of conduct. When we say wrong we mean you don't approve.

So when we say morally wrong, we want to know why you don't approve based on that sense.

 

[McBell]

Yeah, no kidding.

The parts that I find most entertaining are:

Let me know when you are ready to make valid points instead of just spewing out rubbish.

and:

It's obvious that you're writing things just purely for the sake of disagreeing.

 

[thebigpicture]

Intended by whom?

The Creator.

No, it doesn't. Which makes it rather stupid to barge in saying "It's unnatural," doesn't it?

No. It makes perfect sense to say it's unnatural because......it is unnatural.

:biglaugh:

And how in the world can we do that?

Think on it, it'll come to you.

 

[Many Sages One Truth]

So big picture you going to answer my questions? Or you plan to play the avoidance game?

 

[Storm]

The Creator.

Then why are our brains structured differently? Did the Creator screw up?

 

[McBell]

I'm sure he will if you can tell him or any of us what makes it morally wrong?

I for one am not the least bit impressed when someones argument boils down to nothing more than jumping up and down screaming "It's Wrong!"