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My views on homosexuality
- Thread starter Sultan Of Swing
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Otherright
Otherright
He's going to avoid you, because he's avoiding me as well. He can't man up and answer why he feels its morally wrong, because his daddy told him or something and that was good enough.
Many Sages One Truth
Active Member
:yes:
thebigpicture
Active Member
What on earth on you talking about?
McBell
Unbound
What creator?
How do you know that "The Creator" does not intend it?
How do you know that "The Creator" disapproves of it?
Circular reasoning.
Cop out.
Many Sages One Truth
Active Member
Probably the ick factor like most people against it.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
So...homosexuality is wrong because it "goes against nature," yet we observe it in nature...:sad:we're not animals and yet we're supposed to follw the "rules of nature"...:sad:You don't believe the Bible and yet homosexuality is "wrong"...:149: :clap congrats, I think You've completelely confused the argument.
thebigpicture
Active Member
To all of you, caaaaaaalm dowwwwn. Breathe in...breathe out. I told you, I am multi-tasking. This is not the only thing I am doing right now, so I can't answer right away, and I most certainly can't read every post all at the same time. Sooooo again...bear with me.
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
Well, you've managed to make quite a few posts without actually saying anything.
Why don't you stop making excuses and present an argument?
Otherright
Otherright
Forget this guy. He doesn't have a genuine opinion on it because he doesn't know why it is morally wrong.
He's baiting you to argue fallacies without stating the reason of his stance.
I've got better things to do. Like take this phone call. My wife's best friend, one of the gay guys I was mentioning earlier wants me to go to gay bar with him to hustle drinks. I don't see why he can't hustle his own drinks.
Do I go with him and lie to get drinks, or do I decline and stay here, bored.
Now that is a moral dilemma to discuss.
He's baiting you to argue fallacies without stating the reason of his stance.
I've got better things to do. Like take this phone call. My wife's best friend, one of the gay guys I was mentioning earlier wants me to go to gay bar with him to hustle drinks. I don't see why he can't hustle his own drinks.
Do I go with him and lie to get drinks, or do I decline and stay here, bored.
Now that is a moral dilemma to discuss.
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
I'm enjoying myself, actually.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
concepts according to "the big picture"?....
1.Bible-Not true yet usable as moral compass
2.Nature-Usable as an example only when in agreement with ones theory
3.Man-Not an animal yet must follow animals 'rules'
4.Homosexuality-Wrong because the Bible (which is not true) has set out morals directed towards Man (not part of nature) and they apply because the laws of nature confirm it...
...just...o.k...
1.Bible-Not true yet usable as moral compass
2.Nature-Usable as an example only when in agreement with ones theory
3.Man-Not an animal yet must follow animals 'rules'
4.Homosexuality-Wrong because the Bible (which is not true) has set out morals directed towards Man (not part of nature) and they apply because the laws of nature confirm it...
...just...o.k...
bain-druie
Tree-Hugger!
Yes in my case it is a choice.
I'm bisexual, so I choose to have a bf. Same way I could choose to have a gf.
So yeah in a way acting on your heterosexual and homosexual feelings are a choice for bisexuals. And I'm so glad I chose a guy too!
Would be interesting to know what religions say about this.
Bisexuality is no different from hetero- or homosexuality; you still do not choose to whom you're attracted, because it is still a matter of hormonal interaction within the endocrine system. No one has control over that. The only difference is the potential for attraction is universal instead of gender-predictable.
Just sayin'. And I haven't read the *whole* thread yet, so if I'm echoing someone else I apologize.
McBell
Unbound
Um...concepts according to "the big picture"?....
1.Bible-Not true yet usable as moral compass
2.Nature-Usable as an example only when in agreement with ones theory
3.Man-Not an animal yet must follow animals 'rules'
4.Homosexuality-Wrong because the Bible (which is not true) has set out morals directed towards Man (not part of nature) and they apply because the laws of nature confirm it...
He has not once said anything about the Bible other than:
"The bible is a book of fairy tales."post #250
Thus you are making assumptions with the latter part of number one and the first part of number four.
thebigpicture
Active Member
Sorry guys for the time its taking to respond, but as I stated before... Anyway,
Homosexuality is wrong because as I stated before it is not the way the Creator intended us to be and it is an unnatural thing that can upset the balance of nature. If you do not believe there is a Creator, we are already on a different page so nothing I say is going to make sense to you. In any case... (and Im going to repeat some things for those just joining in)
The Creator did not intend for a man to have sex with a man nor a woman to have sex with a woman, which is the reason homosexual couples cannot produce babies together. That is a fact. There is no getting around that. The fact that some heterosexual couples cant have babies is the result of something medical not because it is impossible for heterosexual couples to have babies. That is a fact.
We are not animals. So to try to use animals as a reason for homosexuals to be homosexual isnt valid. There are some things that animals do that was intended for them to do. Its how they were created to be. Just because they were created to be that way does not mean we were created to be that way as well. Some animals are two genders in one. Is it a natural thing for a human being to be two genders in one? No. If it were, hermaphroditism would be the norm; not the abnormality.
The behavior of homosexuality is the thing that is immoral; just as some heterosexual behaviors are immoral. Its the behavior itself. A person can be homosexual and never act upon it.
As for the bible...if there were never a such thing as the bible, I would still know that homosexuality is an unnatural thing. Its clear to see. And Im not one of those Youre gay, so youre going to hell! type of people. No one, but the Creator Himself can judge what happens to a person when the time comes.
Homosexuality is wrong because as I stated before it is not the way the Creator intended us to be and it is an unnatural thing that can upset the balance of nature. If you do not believe there is a Creator, we are already on a different page so nothing I say is going to make sense to you. In any case... (and Im going to repeat some things for those just joining in)
The Creator did not intend for a man to have sex with a man nor a woman to have sex with a woman, which is the reason homosexual couples cannot produce babies together. That is a fact. There is no getting around that. The fact that some heterosexual couples cant have babies is the result of something medical not because it is impossible for heterosexual couples to have babies. That is a fact.
We are not animals. So to try to use animals as a reason for homosexuals to be homosexual isnt valid. There are some things that animals do that was intended for them to do. Its how they were created to be. Just because they were created to be that way does not mean we were created to be that way as well. Some animals are two genders in one. Is it a natural thing for a human being to be two genders in one? No. If it were, hermaphroditism would be the norm; not the abnormality.
The behavior of homosexuality is the thing that is immoral; just as some heterosexual behaviors are immoral. Its the behavior itself. A person can be homosexual and never act upon it.
As for the bible...if there were never a such thing as the bible, I would still know that homosexuality is an unnatural thing. Its clear to see. And Im not one of those Youre gay, so youre going to hell! type of people. No one, but the Creator Himself can judge what happens to a person when the time comes.
thebigpicture
Active Member
No, you've confused yourself. You're pulling things out of thin air. Your paraphrasing doesn't make sense, nor does it correctly reflect what I stated. Go back and really read my posts and then maybe you'll understand how you're the cause of your own confusion.
thebigpicture
Active Member
Cracked me up! Seriously, I had to laugh.