""Traditionally described as "the act of going up" (towards the
Jewish holy city of
Jerusalem),
moving to the Land of Israel or "making aliyah" is one of the most basic tenets of Zionism. The opposite action—emigration by Jews from the Land of Israel—is referred to in the
Hebrew language as
yerida (lit. 'descent').
[1] The
Law of Return that was passed by the
Israeli parliament in 1950 gives all diaspora Jews, as well as their children and grandchildren, the right to relocate to Israel and acquire
Israeli citizenship on the basis of connecting to their
Jewish identity.
OK. Thank you, I can explain what this means in the common American Jewish community, but, I'm not sure you would believe me. But, at the very least, "Making Aliyah" is not how I understand the words "global migration".
The requirement of that temple, is for that alter and the ritual of animal sacrificing. Specifically that 'red heifer'. I do not know how to be kind upon realizing that the need of that site is for that very ritual. An unequivocal disgust rolls thru my heart. Between that comprehension and that so many have died over that site, is why i consider jerusalem the 'city of blood'.
Funny part is, I found that phrase used in one of the interpretations of bible scripture. It almost scared me.
Ahhhhh. Sorry. When I say ritual slaughter, I am talking about Kosher meat production distribution and importation in the USA. There are a few countries which have done this. The facts are on the side of permitting Kosher meat production distribution and importation if it regulated properly, but, that doesn't stop people from making anti-Jewish legislation in the guise of animal-rights.
A Jewish Homeland is needed because, no one is going to protect the Jewish people and our right to be Jewish besides ourselves. Being ourselves and being left alone makes people angry. We don't want to be part of their club, clique, or world-order. And this frustrates people. "Why do you Jews have to be so Jewish... arggggh!!!!"
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Israel’s Settlements Have No Legal Validity, Constitute Flagrant Violation of International Law, Security Council Reaffirms""" UN RES 2334
Trump heights was not a good annexation
Except that's not what I posted about. Not "settlements", I was talking about palestinians selling their property. And this UN resoltuons is from 2016 almost 10 years ago.
AND. Big picture:
Are you expecting me to defer to your sources as unbiased and accurate simply because they're anti-Israel? Or is it that I should defer to your sources because as you wrote: "you have 50+ years of experience watching these sorts of events unfold?"
Is it fair to disregard Pro-Israel sources and while simultaneously automatically placing faith in the anti-Israel sources. Right or wrong, true or false, the UN has a pattern of being anti-Israel. i think there is a valuable discussion which can be had, but it needs to be fair. If you are open to it, I'll share how my spouse and I are trying to, as I said, fill in the details of our understanding which up to now has been just to borders, outlines, and topic-headings of the on-going Middle-East conflict.
Sliver.....does not include jerusalem.
Right! What are the implications of this regarding the roots of zionism. Can you imagine any Jewish religious zealot settling for a plan which did not include jerusalem?
Sliver.................... Why make it appear so menial with the term?
Because it's not greedy to desire a sliver of land. The feelings of disgust seem to be directed towards an image of a perople who have a ravenous insatiable appetite. ( Is that part of the foaming at the mouth rabid rabbi you described? )
Because of the terrorism, violence and the oppression of the last 70yrs. I have watched the divide since I was a child and like I said, the sick realization that it's over that location (city of blood) breaks my heart.
Have you considered that you have been given only one side? Or perhaps only one side resonates with you? I was raised with a completely different narrative where rockets are launched into cafes, crazed shooters attack cars of innocent people. Bombs, many bombs.
Are you aware of the stories coming out of the kibbutzim? These are currrent events. Do you know what is being reported. Out of respect for you, I am not going to type it or link to the articles. But, as a parent, I cannot describe the feeling I have even considering the atrocity. This is tthe worst of the worst of the worst. And the pictures were sent to the grandmother to show her what they did? And not just one occurance of this? many others? more than 20?
Of course people will say it's fake, but these things are difficult to fake. Rockets are impossible to fake. Blood and bodies are impossible to fake.
My question is: are you able to consider this opposing narrative? If you consider it all fake, will you respect my perspective if it considers the anti-Israel narrative all fake?
Just like the news clip that I watched yesterday am with the palestinian standing on the walls of his destroyed home, refusing to leave. I am not going thru recordings to look.
This was from a search:
On Wednesday, dozens of Jewish settlers, some armed, set fire to houses and vehicles in the Palestinian West Bank town of Turmus Ayya, including agricultural areas near the village. According to Israeli security sources, the settlers threw stones and set on fire 15 houses and 30 cars. Jun 24, 2023
Mob of Armed Israeli Settlers Rampage West Bank Palestinian Village of Umm Safa, Burning Houses and Cars
Over 100 settlers rioted in the town near Ramallah under the protection of Israeli soldiers, the town's mayor told Haaretz. The attack was condemned by Germany's ambassador to Israel who said he was 'shocked by another outbreak of settler violence'
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Facebook. Gettting news from social media, in my opinion is not news at all. It's targetted advertising. It is designed to keep users on their platform and it feeds them whatever they desire to accomplish that goal.
Yes. I most certainly researched it as soon as you told me about it. I think I posted those search results. But I know you don't read the links. Maybe I posted that in another later post, and there's a reply to it? Oh! I think you replied to it a few lines down.
I can't fix anything if anti-Israeli crazed gunmen shoot into a cars with innocent people including children and this is ignored by those who are anti-Israel and ignore anything that doesn't agree with that. That s what happened prior to the riot.
I don't think you understand. Itt's too late to fix anything. Hamas made a huge mistake attacking the way they did. There's certain lines that cannot be crossed. When it comes to harming innocent children, that's it for me. And I'm not alone. The zionists did not go after children. They didn't harm a soul. You're talking to me a property damage? Which is in response for shooting at an innocent family at point blank range?
I don't care if a person or group has been unfairly oppressed for generations, when it comes to certain types of atrocities, I become a very cold and dangerous minded individual. It's not about revenge, it's not about torture, it's not about wrath. It's about "lights out" for the individual or individuals who are capable of doing those sorts of things.
There are certain lines which cannot be crossed.
That said, I can also unflip that switch. And consider what it means if the story is fake ( inspite of how unlikely that is ). But I'm not going to play that game unless you are also willing the play that game with me.
Sorry, I'm still deeply disturbed about it, clearly. And it's late for me in my little safe corner of america. I need to try to finish this up and settle down. I see I have another post of yours to reply to. That will be first on the agenda tomorrow morning.
I have but I prefer trying not to watch the stuff any further. Just like this last weekend, the acts should never have happened and I am not the type to take a side of hate for any soul.
If you don't post it then we can't discuss what happened. And then it's really just you venting about something that is deeply troubling you. Which is fine. I told you I wouldd listen, and I intend to keep my word. But if you ask for feedback, the answer will always be the same. I can't judge it without more details.
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Zionism, Jewish
nationalist movement that has had as its goal the creation and support of a Jewish national state in
Palestine, the ancient homeland of the
Jews (Hebrew: Eretz Yisraʾel, “the Land of Israel”). """
""Some scholars believe that the name also belonged to the “stronghold of Zion” taken by David (2 Samuel 5:7), which may have been the
fortress of the city."""
That's just a name. It's not anything religious. The zionists were Haskalah. They implemented Hebrew ( the holy language ) for mundane matters. Their not religious zealots. But, hopefully we can get to a point where we are discussing root causes, instead of trying to negotiate who's narrative is "falser".
That is one that I am aware of. But that's a whole other chapter.
It's actually important, imo. very. but, I'm going to bed. g'night.
