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Poll: Global Warming?

Is there such a thing as global warming? (please elaborate!)

  • No, there isn't

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    51
  • Poll closed .

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Jesus said at the end of Matthew 16

...”Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.”

And just a few days later Peter, James, and John did see the glorified Jesus in His kingdom, along with Moses and Elijah.

...Now after six days Jesus took Peter, James, and John his brother, led them up on a high mountain by themselves; 2 and He was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and His clothes became as white as the light. 3 And behold, Moses and Elijah appeared to them, talking with Him. 4 Then Peter answered and said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good for us to be here; if You wish, let us make here three tabernacles: one for You, one for Moses, and one for Elijah.”

5 While he was still speaking, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them; and suddenly a voice came out of the cloud, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Hear Him!” 6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their faces and were greatly afraid. 7 But Jesus came and touched them and said, “Arise, and do not be afraid.” 8 When they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no one but Jesus only.
Matthew 17:1-8

There is no misinterpretation, no failed prophecy.
I think you know that's not what is being referred to. Matthew 24:34, Matthew 16:28, and Mark 13:30 mention the "there are those who won't yet be dead" thing.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Sorry but that is a clear reinterpretation. It is generally acknowledged as one of the most troubling passages of scripture in the Bible for Christians. It even was the seed for the myth of the Wandering Jew.

Here is a simple test to see if you can approach the Bible rationally. Do you understand the the Noah's Ark story is just a myth? It never happened.
A reinterpretation that doesn't even cover what you mentioned.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
Sorry but that is a clear reinterpretation. It is generally acknowledged as one of the most troubling passages of scripture in the Bible for Christians. It even was the seed for the myth of the Wandering Jew.

Here is a simple test to see if you can approach the Bible rationally. Do you understand the the Noah's Ark story is just a myth? It never happened.
I say it’s a perfectly sensible interpretation, especially since one thought follows directly after the other. I’m sure you are aware that the original manuscripts had no chapter divisions.
I don’t see, nor have ever heard of that passage having any connection to the myth of the wandering Jew. I’m not even sure what you mean by wandering Jew.

Of course I believe the account of Noah’s ark is factual. It is God’s Word, just as we are informed that birth pangs or environmental events and upheaval will increase and intensity the closer we get to the end of the age.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
I think you know that's not what is being referred to. Matthew 24:34, Matthew 16:28, and Mark 13:30 mention the "there are those who won't yet be dead" thing.
I think you are convoluting two different subjects. Peter, John and James did see Jesus in His kingdom on the Mount of Transfiguration. The “this generation” verses apply to the generation that sees all the things Jesus said would occur at the end of the age, which would have been a future generation than those He spoke to. I’m pretty sure He was referring to the present generation now that a Israel is a nation again and other events He mentioned have or are occurring.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I think you are convoluting two different subjects. Peter, John and James did see Jesus in His kingdom on the Mount of Transfiguration. The “this generation” verses apply to the generation that sees all the things Jesus said would occur at the end of the age, which would have been a future generation than those He spoke to. I’m pretty sure He was referring to the present generation now that a Israel is a nation again and other events He mentioned have or are occurring.
That's not at all what was being mentioned. If you didn't mix things up it seems you threw it out there to try to make Subduction Zone's argument look bad.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
That's not at all what was being mentioned. If you didn't mix things up it seems you threw it out there to try to make Subduction Zone's argument look bad.
If that’s not what was being mentioned he should have given a scripture reference. I responded to what I thought he was referring to. Maybe I was mistaken.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I say it’s a perfectly sensible interpretation, especially since one thought follows directly after the other. I’m sure you are aware that the original manuscripts had no chapter divisions.
I don’t see, nor have ever heard of that passage having any connection to the myth of the wandering Jew. I’m not even sure what you mean by wandering Jew.

Of course I believe the account of Noah’s ark is factual. It is God’s Word, just as we are informed that birth pangs or environmental events and upheaval will increase and intensity the closer we get to the end of the age.
No, if anything the Noah's Ark story tells us that the Bible is not "'God's world". Nature tells us in countless different ways that there was no flood. If your God created everything then he had to lie by covering up his actions. I hope that you do not believe that.

So you are both overly literal and then when the Bible goes against your beliefs you freely reinterpret it.
 

Aštra’el

Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
Better for humanity to die off than admit a mistake.

And I guess you haven't realized that would terminate pregnancies. Oops. So much for your "pro-life" label.

I am not “pro-life”. I have never claimed to be.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
but the fear tactics used to implement further political and/or economic controls and goals... don’t.
Only @InChrist
Amen to that. Thanks, nice to see there is one on RF on my wavelength with this topic

I rather avoid making claims, but I dare claim that the fear tactics are a fact
Some government controlled fear mongering:
a) Corona
b) Weather heat (they use bright red scare colors even)
c) Weather draught
d) Weather floods
e) Weather cold
f) War Russia, Putin, nuclear threat
g) Food shortages
h) Energy shortages
i) Polution problems
* Well the alphabet is too short

Interesting is to know "why this fear mongering?" But most on RF don't want to hear this, and put those who dare share their opinions in conspiracy box. Well, I stopped sharing info...who does not want to hear, will feel later a Dutch saying says
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Only @InChrist
Amen to that. Thanks, nice to see there is one on RF on my wavelength with this topic

I rather avoid making claims, but I dare claim that the fear tactics are a fact
Some government controlled fear mongering:
a) Corona
b) Weather heat (they use bright red scare colors even)
c) Weather draught
d) Weather floods
e) Weather cold
f) War Russia, Putin, nuclear threat
g) Food shortages
h) Energy shortages
i) Polution problems
* Well the alphabet is too short

Interesting is to know "why this fear mongering?" But most on RF don't want to hear this, and put those who dare share their opinions in conspiracy box. Well, I stopped sharing info...who does not want to hear, will feel later a Dutch saying says

How does the matter-of-fact objective view of science concerning the above putting aside diverse and conflicting religious perspectives?

The foundation of science is not political and does not take into consideration diverse and conflicting religious beliefs. Science cannot and will not falsify subjective religious claims. The problem of the diverse conflicting political and religious views of Global Warming that do not reflect the down-to-earth science is a classic example of this problem.
 
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stvdv

Veteran Member
How does the matter-of-fact objective view of science concerning the above putting aside diverse and conflicting religious perspectives?

The foundation of science is not political and does not take into consideration diverse and conflicting religious beliefs. Science cannot and will not falsify subjective religious claims. The problem of the diverse conflicting political and religious views of Global Warming that do not reflect the down-to-earth science is a classic example of this problem.
I hope you are right
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
I hope you are right

When dealing with these issues 'hope' is not constructive course in dealing with these issues.

I am willing to make a point-by-point dialogue concerning the nature of science as science, and non- political or religious relationship concerning any issue such as Global Warming, Evolution, Cosmology, Pandemic/Virus issues, or any other science-related issue.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
How come a lot of people that can’t even control something merely manmade like the economy want to claim they can “fix” the climate?
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
When dealing with these issues 'hope' is not constructive course in dealing with these issues.

I am willing to make a point-by-point dialogue concerning the nature of science as science, and non- political or religious relationship concerning any issue such as Global Warming, Evolution, Cosmology, Pandemic/Virus issues, or any other science-related issue.

Trying to make science portrayed as having a religious or political agenda is playing dodge ball with blue smoke and mirrors,
 
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