Prospective President Kamala Harris

[It Aint Necessarily So]

I think it's really cute when people think Kamala Harris has whatever it takes to beat Trump.

It's a justifiable political opinion. I expect her to win.

I am not voting for Trump or Harris and I don't live in a swing state so I will write some name or the other in, which won't matter but SOMEONE SOMEWHERE will see it.

If you think that your vote doesn't matter, why vote? Are you of the mind that you don't have right to participate in the discussion if you don't vote?

 

[Kathryn]

It's a justifiable political opinion. I expect her to win.

If you think that your vote doesn't matter, why vote? Are you of the mind that you don't have right to participate in the discussion if you don't vote?

Nope, and I am going to vote for other people on the ticket, just going to write in a name for the President.

 

[We Never Know]

And she has been called as such as possibly being the first black woman and also the first Asian to be president if she wins.

Black, Asain, white, pink, purple, or what ever. If she wins she will be the first female president period regardless of race.

Why even mention her race at all?

Because in politics people try to use race to their advantage. Been that way for years.
They will overplay the black heredity of Harris while low playing her Asian heredity.
Its all about trying to sway groups to vote for her.

 

[Copernicus]

Black, Asain, white, pink, purple, or what ever. If she wins she will be the first female president period regardless of race.

Why even mention her race at all?

Because in politics people try to use race to their advantage. Been that way for years.
They will overplay the black heredity of Harris while low playing her Asian heredity.
Its all about trying to sway groups to vote for her.

Both sides use race, albeit not always in the same way. For Democrats, it is important because people of color are a large part of their voter coalition. They absolutely need black voters, and that is why Republican and Democratic legislators pay attention to racial demographics when they draw up gerrymandered election maps, even though it is technically illegal to discriminate along racial lines. The Supreme Court, dominated by Republicans, now takes the position that racially-based gerrymandering is largely a thing of the past and that it is really just political, which they think should be the legal excuse for it. But even they have had to pull the plug on a few too blatantly racially gerrymandered election maps.

The sad thing is that the racist and misogynistic attacks on Kamala Harris have built up from Republican elected officials so quickly that the Republican leadership in Congress has had to call their members into a closed door meeting to tell them to stop it. Why would a major political party have to do something like that? It takes us back to an earlier time when shameless and blatant racebaiting by politicians was a common occurrence in national politics. They have to be reminded to be ashamed of it.

Republican leaders urge party members against racist and sexist attacks on Harris​

 

[LuisDantas]

I think it's really cute when people think Kamala Harris has whatever it takes to beat Trump. Me, I am not voting for Trump or Harris and I don't live in a swing state so I will write some name or the other in, which won't matter but SOMEONE SOMEWHERE will see it.

You sang a different tune just a couple of weeks ago.

But I suppose I should not care. I guess I do not.

 

[Kathryn]

You sang a different tune just a couple of weeks ago.

But I suppose I should not care. I guess I do not.

I am singing the same tune I've always sung. Please prove otherwise. Thanks.

 

[Stevicus]

I think it's really cute when people think Kamala Harris has whatever it takes to beat Trump. Me, I am not voting for Trump or Harris and I don't live in a swing state so I will write some name or the other in, which won't matter but SOMEONE SOMEWHERE will see it.

Stranger things have happened. I never thought Trump could get elected, but I was wrong.

The only thing that seems certain is that, in the coming months, a lot of nasty rhetoric is going to be flying back and forth - and possibly other forms of nastiness. I know that some people kind of tune out during the political season. All those inane, mud-slinging political ads on TV and radio (and on YouTube or anywhere else that sells air time). Ugh.

 

[metis]

Black, Asain, white, pink, purple, or what ever. If she wins she will be the first female president period regardless of race.

Why even mention her race at all?

Because in politics people try to use race to their advantage. Been that way for years.
They will overplay the black heredity of Harris while low playing her Asian heredity.
Its all about trying to sway groups to vote for her.

My response was not that race is important to me in this context but that many Dems do cite the fact that she is of mixed "race", black & Asian. IOW I was responding to someone else's use of "race" as if Dems supposedly ignore that her ancestry is of different continents.

As an anthropologist, we generally don't use "race" in such a context because it's almost impossible to define.

 

[Kathryn]

Stranger things have happened. I never thought Trump could get elected, but I was wrong.

You aren't kidding. I thought it was a freaking joke.

 

[We Never Know]

Both sides use race, albeit not always in the same way. For Democrats, it is important because people of color are a large part of their voter coalition. They absolutely need black voters, and that is why Republican and Democratic legislators pay attention to racial demographics when they draw up gerrymandered election maps, even though it is technically illegal to discriminate along racial lines. The Supreme Court, dominated by Republicans, now takes the position that racially-based gerrymandering is largely a thing of the past and that it is really just political, which they think should be the legal excuse for it. But even they have had to pull the plug on a few too blatantly racially gerrymandered election maps.

The sad thing is that the racist and misogynistic attacks on Kamala Harris have built up from Republican elected officials so quickly that the Republican leadership in Congress has had to call their members into a closed door meeting to tell them to stop it. Why would a major political party have to do something like that? It takes us back to an earlier time when shameless and blatant racebaiting by politicians was a common occurrence in national politics. They have to be reminded to be ashamed of it.

Republican leaders urge party members against racist and sexist attacks on Harris​

Of course both parties use race. Like I said its politics and people try to use race to their advantage. Been that way for years.

Nothing you said changes the fact that
black, asain, white, pink, purple, or what ever. If she wins she will be the first female president period regardless of race.

Btw, the first Black female Asian American to be president if she wins.....

She would also be the first Asian female Black American to be president if she wins but that doesn't sound as appealing IMO.

 

[Copernicus]

Of course both parties use race. Like I said its politics and people try to use race to their advantage. Been that way for years.

Nothing you said changes the fact that
black, asain, white, pink, purple, or what ever. If she wins she will be the first female president period regardless of race.

Oh, I wasn't disputing that, but Hillary Clinton has already won the popular vote in a presidential race. Kamala Harris probably will win the popular vote as well. The more interesting question now is whether that will translate into an electoral college victory or just be another near miss. I just don't think it is that big of a deal for a woman to be elected president anymore. Lots of countries have women leaders, and Harris has already proven that Americans are ready for a woman president, because the Biden-Harris ticket beat Trump handily in the 2020 general election in both the popular and electoral counts. So people voted with the knowledge that she could become president overnight. The question now is whether there are enough voters in the right states to put her over the top again. Or maybe those states will prefer to give J.D. Vance a chance to become president overnight.

 

[AsianActivist]

For me Ms. Harris at her worst will be better than drumpf at his best, so the answer is clear: Kamala for the People!

If the question is, "Who do I vote for president?" then I have to really ask myself do I vote for a convicted felon, a racist, and someone who would sell America to ruzzia, kowtow to zhina, and betray our ally's to line his own pocket. Or do I vote for someone who supports equality, freedom, democracy, modernity and the rule based order. Any truly unbiased person should know the answer.

The MO drumpf supporters is they are staggeringly low EQ and IQ, trying to claim that both side's are equally as bad so it doesn't matter. They are trying to propagandize other's into there low-quality thinking.

Believe me, I came from a country where the Red Guard's set an entire nation back 50 years. Where the totalitarian's caused a famine. That's the future we have if drumpf is president. At this point the GQP is a terrorist organization and an evil cult just like the CCP and Hamas are.

 

[We Never Know]

Oh, I wasn't disputing that, but Hillary Clinton has already won the popular vote in a presidential race. Kamala Harris probably will win the popular vote as well.

I've pointed Hillary out several times.

The more interesting question now is whether that will translate into an electoral college victory or just be another near miss.

Yep the popular vote does not guarantee a win. I have pointed that out several times as well

I just don't think it is that big of a deal for a woman to be elected president anymore. Lots of countries have women leaders,

I have no problem with it.

and Harris has already proven that Americans are ready for a woman president, because the Biden-Harris ticket beat Trump handily in the 2020 general election in both the popular and electoral counts. So people voted with the knowledge that she could become president overnight. The question now is whether there are enough voters in the right states to put her over the top again.

In another thread I also pointed that out about her becoming president if Biden couldn't.

The ticket was Biden/Harris.
Biden is out. Harris remains.
She was half the ticket.
Now the ticket is Harris/........

She may not be who the people picked in the primaries for president but she was half the ticket they picked, the VP, second in command.

If Biden could no longer be the president by health or even death, Harris would have became president. The voters knew that any and every time they voted for the Biden/Harris ticket.

Maybe Biden should just step out of this term and give her the presidency then she will be running for re-election since she would already be the president.

If people want to get over race in America people need to quit using race as a playing card trying to gain an advantage(whether helpful or hurtful).
When our government uses it, that sets the example for everyone.

Btw, the first Black female Asian American to be president if she wins.....

She would also be the first Asian female Black American to be president if she wins but that doesn't sound as appealing does it?

 

[Magic Man]

I think it's really cute when people think Kamala Harris has whatever it takes to beat Trump.

I think it's really cute when people think Kamala does not have what it takes to beat Trump.

I mean, granted, "what it takes to beat Trump" should be the easiest thing in the world. In a sane world, Trump would have been gone long, long ago and wouldn't be remotely close to even an option in the primaries. But even aside from that, the idea that Kamala definitely won't beat Trump is pretty funny. At this point it's right around a toss-up. Trump has a very slight advantage, but he's also played some big cards already, like the RNC and picking his VP, along with the assassination attempt that should give him a big bump. Kamala is just getting started. In the end, it'll almost definitely be a tight race (because Americans are stupid), but there is every chance Kamala pulls out the victory.

 

[Pogo]

I think it's really cute when people think Kamala does not have what it takes to beat Trump.

I mean, granted, "what it takes to beat Trump" should be the easiest thing in the world. In a sane world, Trump would have been gone long, long ago and wouldn't be remotely close to even an option in the primaries. But even aside from that, the idea that Kamala definitely won't beat Trump is pretty funny. At this point it's right around a toss-up. Trump has a very slight advantage, but he's also played some big cards already, like the RNC and picking his VP, along with the assassination attempt that should give him a big bump. Kamala is just getting started. In the end, it'll almost definitely be a tight race (because Americans are stupid), but there is every chance Kamala pulls out the victory.

She sort of stumbled on her first foray into the national light. campaigning in California is a little different, Racist Mysogyny doesn't go over well and she can be acerbic as befits a prosecutor. She also had a bit of an odd reputation in CA that she was known for some excessive prosecution of low level cases in Oakland while DA. This from my brother who lived there at the time. Anyhow it got bandied about and used against her. I doubt Trump will bring up her prosecutorial history this time.

That said, that which may have held her back then may be an advantage. She can be showy and Trump can try and call her nasty etc, but I think he has met his match.
As for competence, she was AG in California, she may well be a pain in the *** as a boss, but little doubt of her abilities, though she won't be as good with Congress as Biden.

Full disclosure, I actually purchased my one and only yard sign when she first ran. (I also bought a Trump sign for my son to deface)

 

[Kathryn]

I think it's really cute when people think Kamala does not have what it takes to beat Trump.

I mean, granted, "what it takes to beat Trump" should be the easiest thing in the world. In a sane world, Trump would have been gone long, long ago and wouldn't be remotely close to even an option in the primaries. But even aside from that, the idea that Kamala definitely won't beat Trump is pretty funny. At this point it's right around a toss-up. Trump has a very slight advantage, but he's also played some big cards already, like the RNC and picking his VP, along with the assassination attempt that should give him a big bump. Kamala is just getting started. In the end, it'll almost definitely be a tight race (because Americans are stupid), but there is every chance Kamala pulls out the victory.

Like I said, I think it's really cute when people think Kamala has whatever it takes to beat Trump (and I am not even voting for Trump). The DNC has been covering up for Biden for MONTHS now (and they still are, for that matter, or were an hour ago - Things change quickly these days...). Kamala must be a huge relief to them though. Even though they didn't vote her in last time - because she is unlikeable. She still is.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

So no.

How is this an answer to my question? or any question?

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Again, presidents have advisors-- a lot of them.

Yes, but they should be competent as well.

Are you worried at all about Trump's mental stability?

No.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

And I just provided what any reasonable person would agree was ample evidence that this is not true. And you don't even attempt to rebut that evidence, you just pretend it isn't there.

Ok, we disagree is that ok?

We could engage in a robust and substantive debate about Biden's policies and his record. But instead you want to engage in baseless conspiracy theories about some kind of cover up.

I was talking about Biden's record. What cover up are you talking about?

You didn't provide evidence, you just claimed "it is obvious". That is what people say when they can't provide evidence.

You saw the debate right? That is obvious evidence of a problem.

 

[We Never Know]

I think it's really cute when people think Kamala Harris has whatever it takes to beat Trump. Me, I am not voting for Trump or Harris and I don't live in a swing state so I will write some name or the other in, which won't matter but SOMEONE SOMEWHERE will see it.

At this point and time in the race she is their best chance.
They admitted Biden would blow it in Nov and further down the road for dems in midterms(see the dems plan ahead lol)