Salvation in Christianity

[Jimmy]

This ain’t heaven princess.

I’m sorry you feel that way

 

[Treasure Hunter]

I’m sorry you feel that way

You have it backwards.

 

[Jimmy]

This ain’t heaven princess.

Let’s take an individual who became paraplegic by a drunk driver. Let’s say they were depressed for a long time, got into drugs etc. then they turned their life around and started to view there life as a blessing and started to be positive and happy. Let’s say they viewed life as heaven. Would you tell them no it isn’t?

 

[Treasure Hunter]

Let’s take an individual who became paraplegic by a drunk driver. Let’s say they were depressed for a long time, got into drugs etc. then they turned their life around and started to view their life as a blessing and started to be positive and happy. Let’s say they viewed life as heaven. Would you tell them no it isn’t?

Identifying with paradise, viewing the world through rose colored glasses is a part of the journey. As is undermining that connection in order to move forward in the narrative (think of Odysseus resisting the Sirens). This thread is about moving forward.

 

[Jimmy]

Identifying with paradise, viewing the world through rose colored glasses is a part of the journey. As is undermining that connection in order to move forward in the narrative (think of Odysseus resisting the Sirens). This thread is about moving forward.

It’s the only world we got.

 

[Trailblazer]

I believe in the real heaven not one in the twilight zone

So do I.

 

[Trailblazer]

This ain’t heaven princess.

Right now, it is more like hell.

 

[Treasure Hunter]

It’s the only world we got.

Let’s fulfill its promise, even if that requires that we first judge and condemn it.

 

[Trailblazer]

It’s the only world we got.

It is the only world we have right now, but more world will be unveiled before our eyes after we die physically.

 

[Trailblazer]

Let’s take an individual who became paraplegic by a drunk driver. Let’s say they were depressed for a long time, got into drugs etc. then they turned their life around and started to view there life as a blessing and started to be positive and happy. Let’s say they viewed life as heaven. Would you tell them no it isn’t?

Let’s take an individual who became paraplegic by a drunk driver. Let’s say they were depressed for a long time, got into drugs etc. and they never turned their life around. Let’s say they viewed life as hell. Would you tell them no it isn’t?

 

[Jimmy]

Let’s fulfill its promise, even if that requires that we first judge and condemn it.

Eh I think most people just wanna lead a decent life and have a family

 

[Jimmy]

Let’s take an individual who became paraplegic by a drunk driver. Let’s say they were depressed for a long time, got into drugs etc. and they never turned their life around. Let’s say they viewed life as hell. Would you tell them no it isn’t?

I would try to help them

 

[Trailblazer]

Eh I think most people just wanna lead a decent life and have a family

That might be true but that is not the fate for everyone.

 

[Treasure Hunter]

Eh I think most people just wanna lead a decent life and have a family

Fair enough.

 

[Jimmy]

It is the only world we have right now, but more world will be unveiled before our eyes after we die physically.

Death is the end. Nothing beyond it. Imo Death of all of existence? Well that’s another story.

 

[Jimmy]

That might be true but that is not the fate for everyone.

Unfortunately

 

[Trailblazer]

Death is the end. Nothing beyond it. Imo Death of all of existence? Well that’s another story.

So, you think that physical death is the end of life, that the soul/spirit does not survive death?
Where did you get that belief?

 

[Jimmy]

So, you think that physical death is the end of life, that the soul/spirit does not survive death?
Where did you get that belief?

My gut

 

[Jimmy]

So, you think that physical death is the end of life, that the soul/spirit does not survive death?
Where did you get that belief?

But I’ll be back when all of existence ends

 

[Trailblazer]

My gut

Do you think it is wise to trust your gut, when much could be at stake?