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Should Donald Trump be Sentenced to Jail for 34 Felonies?

Laniakea

Not of this world
When the topic is Trump his election interferance will be part of the discussion. You can deny it all you want, but the well informed know.

The well-indoctrinated believe.

Is Stormy Daniel's political contributions relevant? Anything to deflect from the fact Trump had an affair with her.

Trump was on trial for having an affair? What bookkeeping entry would that fall under?

If you are going to impugn the character of anyone involved with Trump, that opens the door to questioning Trump. As we know he is disturbed and corrupt through to his core. I notice you never offer anything about what a great guy Trump is. You must not know anything either.

EVERYthing about him is great. Great policies, great personality, great goals to achieve, great wealth, and he has a great heart.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
I have seen no reporting on this. Why don't you get to work doing some research and get back to us since you seem oddly curious about it.
When you only recognize reporting that lines up with what you already believe, it won't do anything to educate you.
Expand your horizons.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
I have seen no reporting on this. Why don't you get to work doing some research and get back to us since you seem oddly curious about it.
I'm just asking you a simple question.
Why so defensive?

Do you think Stormy coming forward at that time, just ahead of the 2016 election was just a coincidence?
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
I'm just asking you a simple question.
Why so defensive?

Do you think Stormy coming forward at that time, just ahead of the 2016 election was just a coincidence?
And then coming forward again just before the 2024 election.
She's the porn actress that serves the democrats each and every election! But it'd be nice if they would choose someone of a different profession. Used car salesman, perhaps?
 

McBell

Unbound
When you only recognize reporting that lines up with what you already believe, it won't do anything to educate you.
Expand your horizons.
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McBell

Unbound
And then coming forward again just before the 2024 election.
She's the porn actress that serves the democrats each and every election! But it'd be nice if they would choose someone of a different profession. Used car salesman, perhaps?
The democrats will probably wait until the Republicans stop bringing out a convicted felon....
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member

there is no crime that is a felony .. the jury instructions were "Arbitrary" .. Arbitrary = 3rd world kangaroodom.
Idiots on TV are not evidence. And yes, there was a crime. It has been clearly laid out here several times. If you do not understand that by now that is your fault.

So, once again, what makes this a kangaroo court?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
EVERYthing about him is great. Great policies, great personality, great goals to achieve, great wealth, and he has a great heart.

Great conman, great liar, great racist, great cheater on his wives, great pretend Christian, etc. It's so utterly pathetic that so many who claim to be Christian or observant Jews are so willing to back a person of his utter depravity.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Setting a precedent that a former President can be jailed is an invitation to Banana Republicanism, whether you want to admit it or not.
I think you have that backwards. Placing a former president above the law is more consistent with a banana republic.
There is nothing to cheer about a nation's kangaroo Justice system sans by those who hate it ?
You like to use that term freely, but it doesn't apply to the recent trial or any of the civil trials that adjudicated against Trump. A kangaroo court is a mock trial that only superficially resembles an honest courtroom trial, but exists to charge the innocent and to exonerate dictators and other criminals. The two Senate trials following Trump's twin impeachments were kangaroo courts. They were determined to exonerate a criminal.
to not see a single not guilty found anywhere in such a long list is arguably red flag territory, that everyone speaking in unison and with one voice,
That's already been explained to you. The 34 counts were based on 34 documents - 11 cancelled checks, 12 vouchers, and 11 invoices - that represented the commission of a single crime in furtherance of one or more secondary crimes. What would be odd would be to consider any of those evidence of guilt but not all of them. Maybe if one of the checks went unsigned, maybe then you could exonerate him on one charged felony.

You can see a graphic of that here.
Biden is the legitimate president as far as I'm concerned, but didn't get there by using sheer honesty and integrity
Nor need or should he. He should use any and every tactic that promotes success. The Republicans are not the loyal opposition. Thery are disloyal (to the Constitution) enemies, and can be treated like other enemies of America like Putin. There's also no moral duty to Putin.
Now you are making the case that he was incompetent to stand trial.
Maybe, although not in a legal sense that might help him down the road. He kept nodding off, he couldn't control his gas, and he seemed to not understand what was happening to him. He fist-bumped somebody who had just given damning testimony against him.
As if we wouldn't be hearing, "Trump just proved he's above the law!" if he had been found not guilty. Oh, and of course you'd also be saying, "Not guilty doesn't mean innocent!"
Substitute OJ for Trump.
When the verdict is overturned, the libs here will trot out their talking points. "Trump's SCOTUS" and all that. So predictable.
Yes, it is predictable, and would also be correct. This court can no longer represent that it is impartial regarding Trump. We know that Trump has allies in SCOTUS that got two of his trials delayed on the pretense that presidential immunity from the law without a Senate conviction of an impeachment deserves serious consideration.
His enemies call him Hitler, and so Trump starts using words such as Reich to goad them. Sure enough, the libs react with, "See! He's Hitler! He's terrible! He wants to kill his enemies! He'll turn America into a death camp!"
Trump has called the press the enemy of the people, calling immigrants criminals and vermin making the race impure, wanting Hillary Clinton prosecuted, calling Charlottesville protestors good people, openly admiring Hitler and other dictators, and the like. He is a fascist.
Same with them calling him a dictator, so he says he'll be a dictator on day one. You libs still haven't gotten over it
The Biden campaign has already begun making good use of that gaffe. Hannity tried so hard to steer Trump in the other direction, to say that he had no desire to be a dictator, but that's not the answer Trump gave him.
EVERYthing about him is great. Great policies, great personality, great goals to achieve, great wealth, and he has a great heart.
LOL. You forgot his great people skills, his great sense of humor, his great respect for the law, his great patriotism, his great education, his great vocabulary, his great children, and his great business acumen.
 
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F1fan

Veteran Member
The well-indoctrinated believe.
Thanks for your confession.
Trump was on trial for having an affair? What bookkeeping entry would that fall under?
Look how you don;t understand the crimes after all these explanations. What was that you said above?
EVERYthing about him is great. Great policies, great personality, great goals to achieve, great wealth, and he has a great heart.

He is a great liar, a great conmen who duped the gullible, but he's not a good businessman or criminal. He keeps getting caught.

When you only recognize reporting that lines up with what you already believe, it won't do anything to educate you.
Expand your horizons.
I use reputable media sources, and reject dubious ones. I refuse to expand my horizons by compromising my ethical standards.

I was in journalism in high scool and college, and they drilled ethics into our heads. I look for ethical news sources and reject the biased.
I'm just asking you a simple question.
Why so defensive?
Where am I defensive? You're asking me for opinions on matters I have no information about.
Do you think Stormy coming forward at that time, just ahead of the 2016 election was just a coincidence?
I don't know any details about how her story came to light outside of what was reported in regards to the trial. Like I said, why don't you do some research and report back to us since you seem obsessed about this. I'm indifferent.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
I'm just asking you a simple question.
Why so defensive?

Do you think Stormy coming forward at that time, just ahead of the 2016 election was just a coincidence?
No, the act of a rational businesswoman doing that capitalist thing of selling while the stock is likely highest.
Never took econ 101?
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
I think you have that backwards. Placing a former president above the law is more consistent with a banana republic.

You like to use that term freely, but it doesn't apply to the recent trial or any of the civil trials that adjudicated against Trump. A kangaroo court is a mock trial that only superficially resembles an honest courtroom trial, but exists to charge the innocent and to exonerate dictators and other criminals. The two Senate trials following Trump's twin impeachments were kangaroo courts. They were determined to exonerate a criminal.

Kangaroo court also consistent with a banana republic .. and it is not me using the term .. but that High Provile Democratic Lawyer you forgot about .. in a desperate attempt to dismiss the illegitimacy of authority and abuse of power most foul on display.

A "kangaroo court" - contrary to your made up nonsense ..is one which lacks due process. .. in this case multiple violations on that front .. rule of law violation .. proceedure violations .. founding principle violations ..

you did get the "charge the innocent" part right .. except somehow are sltill all backwards .. what felony crime was committed .. and quit pretending you know what crime that was .. because as per the instructive video provided .. there was none given to the Jury during instruction .. making the whole process "Arbitrary "

What part of "Arbitrary Justice is Kangaroo Justice" did they not teach you in Law school friend ?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Kangaroo court also consistent with a banana republic .. and it is not me using the term .. but that High Provile Democratic Lawyer you forgot about .. in a desperate attempt to dismiss the illegitimacy of authority and abuse of power most foul on display.

A "kangaroo court" - contrary to your made up nonsense ..is one which lacks due process. .. in this case multiple violations on that front .. rule of law violation .. proceedure violations .. founding principle violations ..

you did get the "charge the innocent" part right .. except somehow are sltill all backwards .. what felony crime was committed .. and quit pretending you know what crime that was .. because as per the instructive video provided .. there was none given to the Jury during instruction .. making the whole process "Arbitrary "

What part of "Arbitrary Justice is Kangaroo Justice" did they not teach you in Law school friend ?
What due process was not met? The felony crime that was committed was made clear. What makes you think that it was "arbitrary"?

It sounds as if you listened to a right wing video. If you did it is refuted here:

 

Laniakea

Not of this world
Great conman, great liar, great racist, great cheater on his wives, great pretend Christian, etc. It's so utterly pathetic that so many who claim to be Christian or observant Jews are so willing to back a person of his utter depravity.

Whew! Such hateful rhetoric from democrap these days! You're afraid your guy is gonna lose, and so you get all hateful.
Where's that tolerance and understanding you guys claim to have?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
It certainly reveals her true motive. Not unlike any other porn actress. Will sell body/soul/mind/reputation for money.
Oh please, Trump was cheating on his wife while she was pregnant with their first son together at that time. And you spout that bull****?? No one has claimed that Stormy was an angel. But she did not break the law.
 
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