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Teens: Questions about sex? Get them answered.

T-Dawg

Self-appointed Lunatic
We didn't have ANY sex education in highschool


.....maybe that's why I got pregnant at 17 :p

Aww... :( how did you manage to raise a child at 17? Did the guy stay with you? You didn't end up having to drop out of highschool did you? :(
 

Circle_One

Well-Known Member
Aww... :( how did you manage to raise a child at 17? Did the guy stay with you? You didn't end up having to drop out of highschool did you? :(

I'm a tough chiquita, TAL. I can get through anything and accomplish anything I put my mind to. Always have. I left the guy soon after my son was born. He wasn't good enough to be a father for my son. And no, actually, I graduated highschool with honors, College on the Dean's list and I start University in January.

Don't feel sad for me. I wouldn't have had it any other way. :) There is nothing I have accomplished that would have been possible, had I not had Justyce.
 

Papersock

Lucid Dreamer
I never got any kind of sex education, except maybe in church, if you count "don't have sex before marriage" as sex education.
 

Panda

42?
Premium Member
Don't feel sad for me. I wouldn't have had it any other way. :) There is nothing I have accomplished that would have been possible, had I not had Justyce.

Plus he is cool :p
Though he seems to have stopped hacking your msn/yahoo accounts lol.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
So condoms are 97% effective. That is very good. But would you rather use a method that has 97% effectiveness or 100% effectiveness. If you do not then you are not using reason and logic.
 

McBell

Unbound
So condoms are 97% effective. That is very good. But would you rather use a method that has 97% effectiveness or 100% effectiveness. If you do not then you are not using reason and logic.
There is no method that is 100% effective.
Just ask the Virgin Mary...
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
I was speaking more of STD's than pregnancy, should have stated that. But if you wanna get technical 1 virgin pregnancy out of entire estimated world population since beginning of time is better than 3 out of every 100. :yes: So yeah abstinence odds are still better than any form of birth control. You would be a fool to not use the best!
 

rojse

RF Addict
I was speaking more of STD's than pregnancy, should have stated that. But if you wanna get technical 1 virgin pregnancy out of entire estimated world population since beginning of time is better than 3 out of every 100. :yes: So yeah abstinence odds are still better than any form of birth control. You would be a fool to not use the best!

Considering how the states with the highest rates of teen pregnancy in America all advocate abstinece, I might venture to suggest that it is not actually the best policy.
 

Kerr

Well-Known Member
I was speaking more of STD's than pregnancy, should have stated that. But if you wanna get technical 1 virgin pregnancy out of entire estimated world population since beginning of time is better than 3 out of every 100. :yes: So yeah abstinence odds are still better than any form of birth control. You would be a fool to not use the best!
Or you are just careful with who you sleep with :p.
 

T-Dawg

Self-appointed Lunatic
Well, good news, I successfully masturbated to ejaculation last night.

Now please tell me that's NOT what sex is going to feel like...
Seriously, the "orgasm" thing (if that's what it was) didn't feel remotely close to "good" or "pleasurable"... all it was was part of me going numb for a second, and feeling a little tingle as the semen comes out, and then feeling a little pain afterwards and feeling like you have to pee for the next 20 minutes (I always have to pee after I ejaculate for some reason o_O). Oh, and also, after ejaculation, your penis is densensitized for a few minutes and can't erect or feel pleasure =/ (this is normal, according to most books I've read, men lose sexual desire immediately after ejaculating).

The whole process of ejaculation wasn't worth my time.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Considering how the states with the highest rates of teen pregnancy in America all advocate abstinece, I might venture to suggest that it is not actually the best policy.

If people actually practiced abstinence then it is guaranteed to be the best policy. The problem is getting people to practice it. The fact that most people do not have the willpower to control themselves, does not have any bearing on the effectiveness of practiced abstinence.
 

Panda

42?
Premium Member
If people actually practiced abstinence then it is guaranteed to be the best policy. The problem is getting people to practice it. The fact that most people do not have the willpower to control themselves, does not have any bearing on the effectiveness of practiced abstinence.

Should you abstain from anything that can pose some danger than can be avoided then? I mean what makes sex so special for this?
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
If people actually practiced abstinence then it is guaranteed to be the best policy. The problem is getting people to practice it. The fact that most people do not have the willpower to control themselves, does not have any bearing on the effectiveness of practiced abstinence.
It does however have bearing on promoting abstinence over more effective means of sex education, such as birth control and STD prevention.
 

McBell

Unbound
The fact that most people do not have the willpower to control themselves, does not have any bearing on the effectiveness of practiced abstinence.
I completely disagree.
ESPECIALLY if the fact is, as you say, no one has the will power to obstian, abstinence DOESN'T WORK.
 

T-Dawg

Self-appointed Lunatic
ESPECIALLY if the fact is, as you say, no one has the will power to obstian, abstinence DOESN'T WORK.
No one? Most people probably don't have that self control, but I've been abstaining for sex from ages now (although my ability to control that temptation may be due to the lack of access to that temptation :D)...
 

rojse

RF Addict
If people actually practiced abstinence then it is guaranteed to be the best policy. The problem is getting people to practice it. The fact that most people do not have the willpower to control themselves, does not have any bearing on the effectiveness of practiced abstinence.

And you have admitted the core problem of the abstinence program - willpower and control. People, including teenagers that are not married, want to have sex. All that abstinence education has to say to these kids is: "Don't have sex. Bad things will happen." That doesn't fix the central problem at all, because, evidenced by the birthrates in areas preaching abstinence, people still have sex outside of marriage.

On the other hand, areas which give a proper education on matters relating to sex, including the use of condoms, do not have as high a birthrate. Certainly, condoms might not work perfectly, but in terms of results between the two programs, I can see the obvious winner by the results that are obtained.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Should you abstain from anything that can pose some danger than can be avoided then? I mean what makes sex so special for this?

It is up to the individual to pick and choose their poisons. We all have our own personal brand.

I completely disagree.
ESPECIALLY if the fact is, as you say, no one has the will power to obstian, abstinence DOESN'T WORK.

I never said no one has the will power to be abstinent, I said most do not.

And you have admitted the core problem of the abstinence program - willpower and control. People, including teenagers that are not married, want to have sex. All that abstinence education has to say to these kids is: "Don't have sex. Bad things will happen." That doesn't fix the central problem at all, because, evidenced by the birthrates in areas preaching abstinence, people still have sex outside of marriage.

I agree, but I think safe sex and abstinence should be taught (not just one or the other). Teach them to abstain in hopes they will practice it, but teach them should they falter that they should always practice safe sex.


On the other hand, areas which give a proper education on matters relating to sex, including the use of condoms, do not have as high a birthrate. Certainly, condoms might not work perfectly, but in terms of results between the two programs, I can see the obvious winner by the results that are obtained.

There are many determining factors for this stat other than what you mention here, but if you taught both abstinence and safe sex, you would see a dramatic drop in birthrate (especially for teens) in all regions.
 

Kerr

Well-Known Member
I never said no one has the will power to be abstinent, I said most do not.
There are those that can, true. But to have an ideal does not mean one has to be blind, we must accept the fact that sexuality is a completely natural aspect of being human (because it is, and because I do not think abstinence is a good ideal). It is not wrong, it is not a poison... BUT considering that there are risks it is important to be responsible. Responsibility, such as using condoms and be careful with who you sleep with, is way better to teach then abstinence.
 
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