I can't face listening to any songs.
What was the conspiracy they concocted & carried out? What evidence is there?
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Terrorist attack in Paris: 12 dead, 7 injured
- Thread starter Sultan Of Swing
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I can't face listening to any songs.
What was the conspiracy they concocted & carried out? What evidence is there?
Avi1001
reform Jew humanist liberal feminist entrepreneur
Right....after education....their communities need....economic stimulus....and job creation.....good chance they will get that in France...:roll eyes:
apophenia
Well-Known Member
Thank you.
B F Skinner, the famous behaviorist, was asked, in relation to the widespread public distaste for his ideas, how he felt about getting so little approval.
He answered "I don't need a lot of approval. It is a matter of scheduling"
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
I do think that these problems of jihadi extremism will only eventually be resolved by the moderate Islamic majority.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Actually the French are quite good in trying to use techniques to stimulate more employment, but the trouble lies that their economic system in general is inadequate in being able to handle globalization-- and they ain't alone.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
That is where a significant part of the disappointment lies, namely in not enough pushback of terrorists within the Islamic community itself. If there were massive Islamic demonstrations against terrorism, this would likely have the effect of making such activities less popular. Social pressure is often more effective than just passing more laws.
Avi1001
reform Jew humanist liberal feminist entrepreneur
What French products are world class...other than wine and cheese...???...they have a tourist based economy...!!!....and they are highly nationalistic.....perhaps second only to....Germany....!!!
Metis...I know you have French heritage....that will be conflicting....
I don't know about "only", as nobody's ever been "only". Primarily, though, yes.
I think, like every time before, there's deeper things going on than simple religious zeal. ...and by "deeper", I mean psychologically, not some Illuminati plot.
How do we know there aren't? I don't exactly trust that most media would widely report on them.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Such events would definitely be reported, especially when such major events happen and are followed by so many worldwide. BTW, even some Islamic scholars have stated much the same, and there are some within these communities that have been at least trying to do as such.
I'm sure they'd be reported, but that's why I specified "widely". It doesn't really matter if something gets reported at all if it doesn't circulate.
Media outlets aren't going to spend a lot of time reporting on boring things that don't draw in readers, such as massive decries from Muslims.
How much media attention is "Je Suis Charlie" getting?
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
Yeah France is less patriotic than Germany.
Great stuff. It's like you live in an Opposite World.
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Atheists are pretty good now also.
Perhaps the problem here is as was hinted on the News, the problems between religion and the secular world.
They want to ridicule who they want, but some will not stand for it, so Dont do it! Is that difficult?
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Yesterday, it was announced that several Muslim countries have officially condemned the French terrorists, which is less spectacular than having demonstrations of tens or hundreds of thousands of Muslims protesting terrorism.
I remember one time during Egypt's revolution that a group of Muslims stood outside a Christian Church to protect them. And then the favor was returned.
Wirey
Fartist
Yes! Be silent when you disagree with something! That's how freedom works!
I'm not convinced that Muslims en mass have a responsibility to be spectacular for 'our' sake. I do know that there was a #JeSuisCharlie vigil in Chicago yesterday and that I heard about it by way of a Muslim acquaintance who is very influential in a large suburban mosque.
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
So you think we should ridicule and s-d the consequences? If so, that is the kinda thinking that got these people killed!
Wirey
Fartist
It's also the kind of thinking that ended British rule in America and the Nazis. Dragging evil into the light so it can't hide is the entire purpose of civilization. If they can hide behind "Point out I'm beheading sorcerers and I'll come get you" they win the whole planet eventually.
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
The Problem arent the Muslims outside of France/Europe. The Problem are those inside.
Yesterday evening in Besancon the local Muslim youth celebrated the murderers with fireworks.
When the police arrived the Allahu Akbar screams intensified. They threw stones at the police and pledged to kill more people.
It doesn't bring anything if Muslims in Tunesia, Egypt, Indonesia or on the Moon condemned these attacks.
What is important is the reaction of those inside the EU. And it doesn't look good there.
Yesterday evening in Besancon the local Muslim youth celebrated the murderers with fireworks.
When the police arrived the Allahu Akbar screams intensified. They threw stones at the police and pledged to kill more people.
It doesn't bring anything if Muslims in Tunesia, Egypt, Indonesia or on the Moon condemned these attacks.
What is important is the reaction of those inside the EU. And it doesn't look good there.