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Terrorist attack in Paris: 12 dead, 7 injured

apophenia

Well-Known Member
Aye, that is one of the best arguments against complex & flawlessly executed conspiracies......a Bush or Obama could do that?

I remember a recent discussion we had about arms sales recently. You remarked that the Fed are very fussy about arms sales. I replied by quoting from 'Boy in a Bubble" - just the phrase " a loose affiliation of millionaires and billionaires".

Then, yesterday or the day before, in the thread about 'capitalism hits the fan', I posted the Oxfam analysis which stated that the 85 richest people on this planet have wealth equal to the 3.5 billion poorest.

That's who could do that.

Just sayin
 

apophenia

Well-Known Member
How about, just off the top of my head, we get out of their countries, and oh, I don't know, stop bombing then? You never know, they might not like that. Whatdoya think?

And work out who is supplying the weapons to the extreme 'ists' in all those countries ...

... and go after them
 
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Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
Yes, I'm sure when we do that deeply embedded Islamist ideologies will just vanish into thin air.

Generally terrorism ends either when political goals have been achieved ( or partially achieved ) or when support from the wider population dries up and the extremists are completely marginalised.
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
That's more than they did in WWII.

Wow what an ignorant remark.

During the Battle of France 157.621 German and 6.029 Italian soldiers died.
So you better shut your mouth when you have no knowledge or try to be funny.


Three men suspected of murdering 12 people at Charlie Hebdo magazine in Paris were identified after one of them left his ID card in their abandoned getaway car, it has been reported.
Charlie Hebdo Paris shooting: Three prime suspects 'identified after one leaves ID card in abandoned getaway car' - Mirror Online

Finally they found the evidence, one missed his ID in the stolen car.
How smart this scenario is ?

NEWSFLASH: HUMANS GENERALLY ARENT PERFECT AND SOMETIMES MISTAKES HAPPEN

But let me guess, you believe it was a Western Intelligence Service or the Zionists.







On topic:
In what seems to have been an ambush this morning around 8am a police officer has succumbed to her wounds.
There was apparently a traffic accident and the officer wanted to negotiate between the two drivers. Suddenly a third person exited one of the cars armed with an automatic gun and apparently a bullet proof vest and opened fire on the officer.
The man is still loose.


Meanwhile the youngest of yesterdays trio turned himself in near the Belgian border.
A petrol attendant near the Belgian border told the police that he saw the two suspects and its believed they are headed for Paris.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
Its the Marseillaise.

Not really sure whats not to understand.

Gotcha, now. I had to look up what "Marseillaise" was.

Methinks it's about time to make up for the lack of any education on post-Napoleonic Europe in the US.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
And work out who is supplying the weapons to the extreme 'ists' in all those countries ...

... and go after them
Well that depends on who you listen to. But it seems that the West is giving some...., then they get shot, and other people pick up the weapons.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Yes, I'm sure when we do that deeply embedded Islamist ideologies will just vanish into thin air.
Well it sure ain't got better since we went into the middle east has it.
The west has foreign policies that are not good for them, and we occupy their countries and kill innocent people in them; as a people who will stick together, and a people who live in our OWN respective lands, does that sound like a good idea! Plus we ridicule their prophet. And that is what this was all about.
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
Plus we ridicule their prophet.

Jesus and the Christian God have been satirised extensively, but I haven't noticed any Christian fundamentalists bombing trains, massacring children, murdering journalists, beheading hostages and so on. Admittedly though Christianity has had longer to become civilised.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I remember a recent discussion we had about arms sales recently. You remarked that the Fed are very fussy about arms sales. I replied by quoting from 'Boy in a Bubble" - just the phrase " a loose affiliation of millionaires and billionaires".
I have no idea what you mean by boys in bubbles & billionaires.
Then, yesterday or the day before, in the thread about 'capitalism hits the fan', I posted the Oxfam analysis which stated that the 85 richest people on this planet have wealth equal to the 3.5 billion poorest.
That's who could do that.
Just sayin

I don't disagree that there are very rich people, but I don't know what it is you're say'n.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
Jesus and the Christian God have been satirised extensively, but I haven't noticed any Christian fundamentalists bombing trains, massacring children, murdering journalists, beheading hostages and so on. Admittedly though Christianity has had longer to become civilised.
This is worth reading.
 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
Some in this thread talked about Jews leaving France.

See the link below, which says the main reasons Jews are leaving France is because of Muslim anti-semites, the main reason is not because of "right-wingers" (I will get to the Nazi thing in a minute).

And the left-wing government in France, which depends on the Muslim votes to hold power, refuses to acknowledge the scope of this crisis ...

"As more French Jews face anti-Semitic attacks, many are leaving for Israel. Most of the attacks have come from Muslims, whether immigrants or French-born, many of whom have not assimilated into French society"

"Compounding the dangerous situation, France’s left-wing government refuses to acknowledge the scope of this crisis, apparently more afraid of losing Muslim votes they depend on than in defending France’s half-million Jews"

Here is the link:

France’s Multiculturalist Agenda Makes Jews Pack their Bags | The Daily Caller

Now I no longer have the links to the news items from last year, but I learned last year that it is not only Jews fleeing France, but more than 2 million French have fled France to escape high taxes, threats of higher taxes, and to get away from the policies of the left-wing government.

Have there been Jews who have fled France because of right-wingers? Yes. They are worried about that, too, the main reason is anti-semitic muslims, anti-semitic left-wingers who call themselves "multi-culturalists" and their leftist politicians who want the muslim vote, and also concerns for the rising Nazi like groups who are anti-semitic.

Here is how I see the phenomenon of the later involving the Nazi like groups ...

This isn't talent based immigration. This isn't cultural balance. This isn't immigration.

What happens on the "homeland" side of the border all depends on the citizen types already in the homeland.

Let us take Europe as the example. Keep in mind, this is a Euro example, not Texas. Actually, it is not too far removed in the example, but not the same.

But it is very much the same in Netherlands, Germany, Sweden, soon Norway ...

We are now seeing large marches in France and Germany against the Islamic hordes who are also the same hordes bringing the terrorists with them in a napsack, as the left worships the Islamists and counters the protesters (the far left - Islamic terrorist alliance ... and watch the phony left wing jobs in the news blame the publishing outfit for the 12 dead to cover for the Islamic extremists, viz the far left - Islamic terrorist alliance).

Here is what is different here and misunderstood. Many, most, of these protesters against the Islamicists jihadee groupies, these protesters LIKE their "third rail" and safety nets. They like their welfare actually. They like their cheap schools and public education, and they like their water and bread.

But then they notice, "Hey! These jerks who just shot my kid and our French poodle are also the same hordes who are taking all of our welfare! Their granny is zeroing out our 'lock box'! The lock box was opened and no more money was in it! We can't afford to tutor my kid because their guppies get all the attention and special needs? You mean my ration is cut in half because of THEM?" ...

In Europe you have the Nationalists and the National Socialists (NAZI) and the "right wing" Socialists. They say to the citizens, "Yes. You are right. These hordes are taking all the welfare that rightfully belongs to our own people, not them, now all our resources are tapped by these illiterate savages and they just shot your daughter in the face" ....

Guess what is going to soon happen next after the sun comes up.

Both are correct. They did just shoot their daughter in the face. It could have all been prevented. By profiling. By securing the border.

In California, the government is giving driver's licenses to illegal aliens. This was not voted on by the citizens of the state. In fact, even here in California which is very liberal, the voters have repetedly voted AGAINST such things, the government just forced this on us. They say they "check things" - no they don't, there is no way they know the actual criminal background or truth about these illegal aliens and they are rushing them into "no questions asked" mobility. The is no question in my mind, they just gave at least one Islamic terrorist a driver's license already on the first day.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
Jesus and the Christian God have been satirised extensively, but I haven't noticed any Christian fundamentalists bombing trains, massacring children, murdering journalists, beheading hostages and so on.

Not for retaliation on satirists, but here:

Christian terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They're not as widely reported, but it doesn't mean they don't happen.

Plus, the IRA had a religious element to it.

...and I SWEAR I saw on a documentary about Jesus Christ Superstar that at least two productions were bombed by extremist Christians, but I can't find anything about them.
 

Avi1001

reform Jew humanist liberal feminist entrepreneur
Some in this thread talked about Jews leaving France.

See the link below, which says the main reasons Jews are leaving France is because of Muslim anti-semites, the main reason is not because of "right-wingers" (I will get to the Nazi thing in a minute).

And the left-wing government in France, which depends on the Muslim votes to hold power, refuses to acknowledge the scope of this crisis ...

"As more French Jews face anti-Semitic attacks, many are leaving for Israel. Most of the attacks have come from Muslims, whether immigrants or French-born, many of whom have not assimilated into French society"

"Compounding the dangerous situation, France’s left-wing government refuses to acknowledge the scope of this crisis, apparently more afraid of losing Muslim votes they depend on than in defending France’s half-million Jews"

Here is the link:

France’s Multiculturalist Agenda Makes Jews Pack their Bags | The Daily Caller

Now I no longer have the links to the news items from last year, but I learned last year that it is not only Jews fleeing France, but more than 2 million French have fled France to escape high taxes, threats of higher taxes, and to get away from the policies of the left-wing government.

Have there been Jews who have fled France because of right-wingers? Yes. They are worried about that, too, the main reason is anti-semitic muslims, anti-semitic left-wingers who call themselves "multi-culturalists" and their leftist politicians who want the muslim vote, and also concerns for the rising Nazi like groups who are anti-semitic.

Here is how I see the phenomenon of the later involving the Nazi like groups ...

This isn't talent based immigration. This isn't cultural balance. This isn't immigration.

What happens on the "homeland" side of the border all depends on the citizen types already in the homeland.

Let us take Europe as the example. Keep in mind, this is a Euro example, not Texas. Actually, it is not too far removed in the example, but not the same.

But it is very much the same in Netherlands, Germany, Sweden, soon Norway ...

We are now seeing large marches in France and Germany against the Islamic hordes who are also the same hordes bringing the terrorists with them in a napsack, as the left worships the Islamists and counters the protesters (the far left - Islamic terrorist alliance ... and watch the phony left wing jobs in the news blame the publishing outfit for the 12 dead to cover for the Islamic extremists, viz the far left - Islamic terrorist alliance).

Here is what is different here and misunderstood. Many, most, of these protesters against the Islamicists jihadee groupies, these protesters LIKE their "third rail" and safety nets. They like their welfare actually. They like their cheap schools and public education, and they like their water and bread.

But then they notice, "Hey! These jerks who just shot my kid and our French poodle are also the same hordes who are taking all of our welfare! Their granny is zeroing out our 'lock box'! The lock box was opened and no more money was in it! We can't afford to tutor my kid because their guppies get all the attention and special needs? You mean my ration is cut in half because of THEM?" ...

In Europe you have the Nationalists and the National Socialists (NAZI) and the "right wing" Socialists. They say to the citizens, "Yes. You are right. These hordes are taking all the welfare that rightfully belongs to our own people, not them, now all our resources are tapped by these illiterate savages and they just shot your daughter in the face" ....

Guess what is going to soon happen next after the sun comes up.

Both are correct. They did just shoot their daughter in the face. It could have all been prevented. By profiling. By securing the border.

In California, the government is giving driver's licenses to illegal aliens. This was not voted on by the citizens of the state. In fact, even here in California which is very liberal, the voters have repetedly voted AGAINST such things, the government just forced this on us. They say they "check things" - no they don't, there is no way they know the actual criminal background or truth about these illegal aliens and they are rushing them into "no questions asked" mobility. The is no question in my mind, they just gave at least one Islamic terrorist a driver's license already on the first day.
Yes...Shiva...it is well known that Jews are leaving France because of Muslim anti-semitism....that is why we have to get to the real root of the problem....and solve it.

And that root is.......lack of......education....!!!

But it is true that France has a pathetic record of protecting Jews......all the way back to WWII...!!!....France is an opportunistic country.....miserable....!!!!!....the worst country in Europe....!!!!
 

apophenia

Well-Known Member
I have no idea what you mean by boys in bubbles & billionaires.

Yeah, sorry.
As I mentioned in the post I referred to, it is a famous song by Paul Simon


The reference - "a loose affiliation of millionaires and billionaires" - is in the verse beginning at 2:39 on the vid. But it needs to be heard in context i.e. the whole song.

I don't disagree that there are very rich people, but I don't know what it is you're say'n.

You said you can't see Bush and Obama being up to the task of such conspiracies.

I said that the 85 people who possesss the equivalent wealth of 3,5 billion people may just have the wherewithall.

Or some "loose affiliation" of that cohort.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I remember a recent discussion we had about arms sales recently. You remarked that the Fed are very fussy about arms sales. I replied by quoting from 'Boy in a Bubble" - just the phrase " a loose affiliation of millionaires and billionaires".

Then, yesterday or the day before, in the thread about 'capitalism hits the fan', I posted the Oxfam analysis which stated that the 85 richest people on this planet have wealth equal to the 3.5 billion poorest.

That's who could do that.

Just sayin
Absolutely, and a large part of the problem in France and some other countries there is that the Middle Eastern community that live there comprises the poorest in their society, has the highest crime rate by far, and feel unwanted. However, I'm not making any excuses for some using terrorism, whereas non-violent protest would be a far better way of making their voice heard.
 
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