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The avoidability of war

Audie

Veteran Member
We are a very proud nation.
You don't understand the Italians' psychology.

When someone disses Italy, Italians feel prouder because they think it's envy that drives the dissing.
They thought they could reestablish the
Roman empire.
If all you have is delusion, and pride from
denying the facts about Italy, well, at least you
have something.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I have my complaints about USA, but you
needn't worry about my ever moving to Italy.
(Italians wouldn't want me anyway.)
If you moved to Italy, you wouldn't pay a dime in healthcare.
If I moved to the US, I would have to pay a private insurance company obsessed with big profits.

If you can't see the difference...well...
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Is war supposed to bring worldly justice?
I am not interested in that kind of justice. My faith is my justice.
So, to be clear, you are against war. But you happen to believe Russia - the one who STARTED this particular war - is in the right, and we should bend over backwards to appease them?

Turns out fascist ideology is pretty inconsistent. Who would have thought it.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Peoples are not evil. Only individuals.
When enuf individuals are evil, especially
leaders, then the country reaches a tipping
point where it's fair to call it "evil".
Hitler's Germany was evil. Italy was
evil for supporting it. Russia is now evil.

I have spoken.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
So, to be clear, you are against war. But you happen to believe Russia - the one who STARTED this particular war - is in the right, and we should bend over backwards to appease them?

Turns out fascist ideology is pretty inconsistent. Who would have thought it.
If you read post#3, you will see I did say Russia is in the wrong for choosing war.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Russians would have never elected a president called Hussein after Nine Eleven.
That's Stockholm Syndrome.

We would never elect someone called Hussein as PM either.
What does the name "Hussein" or Pres. Obama himself have to do with 9/11?
And Stockholm syndrome? That doesn't even make any ****ing sense.

But anyway, nobody has any valid reason to care what Russia or Italy would or wouldn't do due to their demonstrably poor judgement.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
If you moved to Italy, you wouldn't pay a dime in healthcare.
If I moved to the US, I would have to pay a private insurance company obsessed with big profits.

If you can't see the difference...well...
I have plenty of cost effective health care.
I don't want to live in a country that supported
Hitler, is friendly to Putin, & unfriendly to gays.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
If you moved to Italy, you wouldn't pay a dime in healthcare.
If I moved to the US, I would have to pay a private insurance company obsessed with big profits.

If you can't see the difference...well...
I live in Singapore, not tne USA. I've been in a lot of countries, and have regarded a lot of differences.
Far beyond your experience.

From such as Hong Kong, New York or
Singapore, a visit to Italy is like going to
a big theme park to view quaint customs and
architrcture.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
If you read post#3, you will see I did say Russia is in the wrong for choosing war.
This seems half-hearted though, given your defense of
Putin, eg, the existential threat posed by USA, NATO, &
George Soros, the need to defend Russian Orthodox
Christianity against gays & western decadence.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I live in Singapore, not tne USA. I've been in a lot of countries, and have regarded a lot of differences.
Far beyond your experience.

From such as Hong Kong, New York or
Singapore, a visit to Italy is like going to
a big theme park to view quaint customs and
architrcture.
But with more pickpockets.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
And yet you want them to benefit from war, by appeasing them. No?

The difference between you and me is that I do want the war to end today, even if Russia has to withdraw.
You don't want the war to end today, unless Ukraine wins the war. Am I wrong?

So...you are disposed to a accept a decennial war, as long as Ukraine defeats Russia, am I wrong?
Correct me if I am wrong.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
If Italy is so bad, why do all migrants come here?
From Asia, Africa...?

I don't think Italy is so bad. I daresay that even those in this thread pulling your chain at the moment don't really believe that Italy is as bad as all that.

Of course, the Roman Empire was a powerful force to be reckoned with at its peak, but eventually, their military power faded, yet was replaced by more of an ideological, cultural, and religious power which still held a great deal of sway over European politics for centuries. Although that power would ultimately be eclipsed by the rise of the Atlantic economies, whose hegemony and military might made the Romans look like pikers by comparison. But even then, both the Americans and British felt it a matter of elite pride that could still learn and speak Latin. Lawyers like to throw out Latin phrases quite a bit, as it makes them appear more sophisticated and high-falutin'.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
When enuf individuals are evil, especially
leaders, then the country reaches a tipping
point where it's fair to call it "evil".
Hitler's Germany was evil. Italy was
evil for supporting it. Russia is now evil.

I see. So, if I can show that there's enough evil capitalists to reach a tipping point, then is it fair to call all capitalists "evil"? Can we say the same thing about Republicans and Democrats?

I have spoken.

Yes, you have spoken.
 
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