FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Religion is about God, right.
You're claiming that prophet Mohammed hijacked your religion.
Concentrate a little bit.
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The birth of the state of Israel and God's promise in the end times
- Thread starter FearGod
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Religion is about God, right.
You're claiming that prophet Mohammed hijacked your religion.
Concentrate a little bit.
rosends
Well-Known Member
another insulting and ignorant statement.This's the problem, Jews think that religion was made just for them,
gentiles were made just to serve the Jews.
Your request is done , this is perfect English :
God transcends time, so he can talk to us using any tense. It doesn't make a difference to him because he created time, so he is not bound by time like we are.
rosends
Well-Known Member
does this mean that ANY use of tense in the text is completely arbitrary and meaningless and we can not learn anything from the particular tense choice?
Tumah
Veteran Member
Thank you for that. It really made a huge difference.
I understand that G-d transcends time. But if He arbitrarily switches between tenses, its renders the Qur'an meaningless because any given statement might be about the past, present or future. G-d is timeless, but He speaks to the timebound. If He doesn't write in a way that we can understand then there is no point to the Qur'an.
God can speak by tense of time He want , you asked why He used past tense (to mention to future) so I explained .
this is second sentence of Torah :
Now the earth was astonishingly empty, and darkness was on the face of the deep, and the spirit of God was hovering over the face of the water.
Can you please explain to me , why God used past tense after NOW ?
Religious Jews are asked about the Talmud
PLEASE scroll the video to 16:36
Many Jews believe in it
Tumah
Veteran Member
Sure, someone stuck it in there when they were translating it to make it flow better in English.
Of course G-d can speak in any tense He wants. I'm just saying it doesn't seem to be a very good idea since we need tenses to match their time frames.
do you think they lost in translation ?
I take it from this JEWISH site :
http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/8165/jewish/Chapter-1.htm
What your English Torah Website that you always used ?
Tumah
Veteran Member
I use the Hebrew
rosends
Well-Known Member
wow. I really enjoyed how you skipped over all the other stuff to find that discussion of one vision of the relationship between Jews and non-Jews in future messianic times. Really convinces me that you have a handle on what many Jews today believe about life. Well done.
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
Ok , why you think , Jews whom translated the Torah , make mistake in tense , especially in second sentence of Torah ?
leibowde84
Veteran Member
I think that no one on earth right now is apt to know God's will in this way.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Is this even a necessary distinction?
Tumah
Veteran Member
I already answered that. They did it because it makes the verses flow better in English and doesn't detract from the basic meaning on the verse.
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
So after all the websites about "Talmud Quotes" your kind of people are now even making such videos.
Its like you literally have no other hobbies.
But hey you are who you are. We've been over this in how many threads? And you probably still haven't read the Talmud, or even gone to the library to read up on the first Algerian citizenship law.
rosends
Well-Known Member
If you say "I am skipped" then the word skipped must operate as a predicate adjective (think "I am sad" where "sad" modifies the subject of the sentence because it follows a linking verb). While there are rare instances in which "skipped" can serve as an adjective, this is not clearly one of them. So, no, "YOU" are not skipped. But you skipped (with skipped as the verb) entire chunks of this video in order to get to the point which you then misunderstand. Your English is not good enough for you to try and glean meaning from a video like this. You should try something simpler.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
It looks like that to me as well
Later, to the children of Israel We said, "Inhabit the earth till the promise of the afterlife is fulfilled. Then, We will bring you out as a crowd."(17:104)
When did the Jews scatter on earth, the verse is saying that they'll be gathered in the promise of the afterlife, hence
the promise wasn't yet coming, but has to come.
The verse is very clear that the plan is for a future event which has yet to come and yet to be fulfilled.