The debate is on

[We Never Know]

Who is locking up Trump?

Who said anything about locking up Trump?

Seems to me you are stretching this as thin as it will go.
And still not getting anywhere with it.

Not stretching anything. Just calling out if we judge people by their past, a lot of folks would be up **** creek without a paddle.

I tell you what, let us wait until after he loses in Nov and see how long it takes him to claim it was unfair?

That's the thing to do.

 

[The Hammer]

'“Yes, people can change, but it’s not that simple,” says Misty Smith, a licensed professional clinical counselor in Michigan.

Personality traits aren’t static and they may change with age and time. However, core personality traits tend to be longstanding, stable, and persistent. '

- Can People Change? When, How, and Why (or Why Not)

What are Trump's "core traits"?? No honesty. Not forgiveness. Not respect for law. Not humility. Not honor. Not piety..... @We Never Know ?

 

[McBell]

Who said anything about locking up Trump?

My apologies.
I misread your post, seeing locked instead of looked.

Not stretching anything. Just calling out if we judge people by their past, a lot of folks would be up **** creek without a paddle.

And?
Is it your thought that a persons past should be ignored because they MIGHT have changed?
Do you honestly think that Trump is not going to scream from the roof tops how unfair the election was if he loses?

That's the thing to do.

I am flat out saying that is my opinion that Trump will not accept the election results if he loses.
Is it your opinion that he will?

 

[Spice]

"Now she's on tape saying he suggested getting the NG and she takes responsibility for not agreeing to it."

But but.. We've been told for years that's a lie.

The lie was he offered the NG during the riot. He offered at some point "before" the rally began, let alone the riot. That strongly indicates he was aware the rally would turn.

 

[Spice]

To be fair, Biden seems (to me) to be fluctuating between coherent and then confused. I vote for his wife Jill; I love community colleges

His campaign confirmed he is sick with a cold. But he was far from being in the moment.

 

[We Never Know]

My apologies.
I misread your post, seeing locked instead of looked.

No worries

And?
Is it your thought that a persons past should be ignored because they MIGHT have changed?
Do you honestly think that Trump is not going to scream from the roof tops how unfair the election was if he loses?

People can change. That don't mean they will but they can. Tonight the dems thought and expected Trump would be loud and argumentative like last time but he was pretty cool headed IMO.

I am flat out saying that is my opinion that Trump will not accept the election results if he loses.
Is it your opinion that he will?

I don't know. We will see if he loses. The thing is if he repeats people will have a better idea of how to handle it.

 

[The Hammer]

His campaign confirmed he is sick with a cold. But he was far from being in the moment.

That tends to happen when one is sick.

 

[The Hammer]

 

[We Never Know]

The lie was he offered the NG during the riot. He offered at some point "before" the rally began, let alone the riot. That strongly indicates he was aware the rally would turn.

Its my understanding he offered because of how many people. It was turned down.
But at least we know now that he offered the NG wasn't a lie like we've been told for years. That came straight out of Pelosi herself.

 

[Spice]

I have notice a pattern with Trump. At least twice now when he has no answer to policy questions he goes back to the past question. He changes the topic to a previous question instead of answering the one that he was asked.

He had no answer for climate change except for obvious lies about his nonaccomplishments so he went back to the previous question. He did the same with his plans for fentanyl.

And never made any statement at all on child care costs.

 

[Subduction Zone]

All you said is Trump won't accept it because he didn't before. IOW he won't change.
Good thing many addicts and criminals aren't looked at in that same way.

No, it is not just because he did it once. Or twice, or three or even four times. Every time he loses an election or a lawsuit it was because "It was rigged". He said that he would not dispute it if the election is fair, but he thinks if he loses it was unfair.

The man is a pathological liar.

 

[We Never Know]

His campaign confirmed he is sick with a cold. But he was far from being in the moment.

Was that confirmed before or after the debate?
Is it being used as an excuse for his poor performance?
The news said some dems have already said if he had acted like that during the primary they probably wouldn't have picked him.

 

[Spice]

If you listened to what Biden said he was cogent, logical, well informed and had a solid grasp of the issues.

If you only listened to how he said it his voice was hoarse and he stuttered occasionally.

But the talking heads tore him a new one in the aftershow. The Democrats!

 

[McBell]

No, it is not just because he did it once. Or twice, or three or even four times. Every time he loses an election or a lawsuit it was because "It was rigged". He said that he would not dispute it if the election is fair, but he thinks if he loses it was unfair.

The man is a pathological liar.

Reminds of that old saying "fool me once shame of you. fool me 637 times, shame on me."

 

[We Never Know]

The lie was he offered the NG during the riot. He offered at some point "before" the rally began, let alone the riot. That strongly indicates he was aware the rally would turn.

It makes me wonder now since Pelosi confirmed it was true, what others things that we have been told are lies.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Its my understanding he offered because of how many people. It was turned down.
But at least we know now that he offered the NG wasn't a lie like we've been told for years. That came straight out of Pelosi herself.

No, it didn't. There is no record of that. The closest that I have seen is a report that Nancy felt guilty the day of the insurrection, but there really was nothing that she could have done. Meanwhile the claim has been shown to be just another Republican lie:

FACT CHECK: Trump’s claim Pelosi turned down his offer to send National Guard members on Jan. 6, 2021

Former President Donald Trump falsely claimed that then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi “turned down” his offer to send “10,000 soldiers or National Guard” to the Capitol during the Jan. 6 insurrection.

www.ajc.com

 

[We Never Know]

Reminds of that old saying "fool me once shame of you. fool me 637 times, shame on me."

Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
There won't be a third time.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Its my understanding he offered because of how many people. It was turned down.
But at least we know now that he offered the NG wasn't a lie like we've been told for years. That came straight out of Pelosi herself.

Citation needed.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
There won't be a third time.

And yet you bought into Trump's lies. Again.

 

[McBell]

And yet you bought into Trump's lies. Again.

I do not recall them making ang claim about Trump accepting the results or not.
They spent all the time dancing around it.

Even after I flat out asked.