The Problem with "Fighting" Homosexuality

[MikeSavage]

Because despite praying extensively, I lost my faith. Besides that I find no compelling reason that the god of the bible is the only god or the best god or the god I really should like even if I did believe in deities.

That's debatable really, I mean I'm pretty sure my parents had sex and my mom gave birth to me, and their parents had sex and so on. There's little to tie any deity to my existence.


That's nice but if all religions lie then why not all books or all people? I mean it's a fine line to walk to believe in the Bible but pretend one doesn't have a personal belief system that would easily be called a religion.


Cool, if that happens, maybe I'll believe. And if your god is almighty he knows it'd take something like for me to believe so he either loves me and wants me or doesn't. Simple.

Regardless, if I eat pork I'm sinning against G-d or Allah and if I eat meat on Fridays I might be sinning against God, or maybe only if I have sexy fun times with another woman, but if I harm others I offend the Lady and her Lord.

Honestly, I feel it's better just to be a good person by my standards, which includes being bisexual and acting on it if the case may be

Most people do lie. Most people don't know how to pray. I assure you that there is only one God, all the others are made up, fictitious. There is only one book that doesn't lie, as long as it's an honest interpretation. Most Bibles are falsely translated. Out of 38 I studied, only two were not totally misleadinig. Most people, however, DO lie, but not completely all of them. The pork thing stopped thousands of years ago, Allah isn't real, and the Friday meat thing is from a false religion teaching false things. What Lady and her Lord do you refer to? And, if you actually came to know God, you would love him more than anyone or anything, and WANT to please Him. That's also something that no religion would EVER teach. It would make them impotent and they would lose membership. That's their only goal, membership, and money in the collection baskets.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Most people do lie. Most people don't know how to pray. I assure you that there is only one God, all the others are made up, fictitious. There is only one book that doesn't lie, as long as it's an honest interpretation. Most Bibles are falsely translated. Out of 38 I studied, only two were not totally misleadinig. Most people, however, DO lie, but not completely all of them. The pork thing stopped thousands of years ago, Allah isn't real, and the Friday meat thing is from a false religion teaching false things. What Lady and her Lord do you refer to? And, if you actually came to know God, you would love him more than anyone or anything, and WANT to please Him. That's also something that no religion would EVER teach. It would make them impotent and they would lose membership. That's their only goal, membership, and money in the collection baskets.

Most everyone else is wrong, but you're the one who's got it all figured out, right? How come you're so special?

 

[Drolefille]

Most people do lie. Most people don't know how to pray. I assure you that there is only one God, all the others are made up, fictitious. There is only one book that doesn't lie, as long as it's an honest interpretation. Most Bibles are falsely translated. Out of 38 I studied, only two were not totally misleadinig. Most people, however, DO lie, but not completely all of them. The pork thing stopped thousands of years ago, Allah isn't real, and the Friday meat thing is from a false religion teaching false things. What Lady and her Lord do you refer to? And, if you actually came to know God, you would love him more than anyone or anything, and WANT to please Him. That's also something that no religion would EVER teach. It would make them impotent and they would lose membership. That's their only goal, membership, and money in the collection baskets.

But see, all I have is to take your word on it, and people lie, or are misled. Why believe you over anyone else, especially if you believe that me being myself is a sin.

 

[MikeSavage]

Most everyone else is wrong, but you're the one who's got it all figured out, right? How come you're so special?

I don't have it all figured out. I rely on God for this knowledge, and over 40 years of hard work, that is still ongoing. I believe in the scriptures for knowledge of God, not what some religion lies about. In ways that would be difficult to explain, God shows me quite often that I'm on the right track. That's something I never expected when growing up. It's quite surprising.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

One is born with sin. One sins constantly.

I am sinless. I do not sin. The musings of an ancient book do not prove that I am.

The "one true faith" that Jesus taught is the only thing that isn't false

I am highly suspicious of the "truth" in a story that involves a man being murdered, and then somehow resurrected.

The creation cannot be greater than the creator.

Not necessarily.

The scriptures are quite clear that this is the truth.

Of course they are. When you are trying to convince people you're speaking the truth, it helps to state that you are.

Why would you not believe in God the Almighty?

I do not believe anyone is really capable of knowing if god is real or not. In my situation, because I have lost my glasses on my face, because I occasionally read letter and words out of order, and because I know I sometimes perceive things wrong I'm not even going to try and guess if there is a god because I know that it's beyond me to know. I also have no real knowledge concerning the existence or non-existence of god, which means I cannot form even an opinion about it.

Evidence of His existence surrounds you every second of your life.

Where?

Such evidence includes your life.

My life only proves my parents had sex.

 

[MikeSavage]

I am sinless. I do not sin. The musings of an ancient book do not prove that I am.

I am highly suspicious of the "truth" in a story that involves a man being murdered, and then somehow resurrected.

Not necessarily.

Of course they are. When you are trying to convince people you're speaking the truth, it helps to state that you are.

I do not believe anyone is really capable of knowing if god is real or not. In my situation, because I have lost my glasses on my face, because I occasionally read letter and words out of order, and because I know I sometimes perceive things wrong I'm not even going to try and guess if there is a god because I know that it's beyond me to know. I also have no real knowledge concerning the existence or non-existence of god, which means I cannot form even an opinion about it.

Where?

My life only proves my parents had sex.

Your comments prove what your choice is. It is the opposite of mine. You won't know the truth until just before you are destroyed. Sorry. But at least you will know the truth then.

 

[McBell]

Your comments prove what your choice is. It is the opposite of mine. You won't know the truth until just before you are destroyed. Sorry. But at least you will know the truth then.

Your bold empty threats are not impressing anyone.

 

[dgirl1986]

Why would you not believe in God the Almighty? Evidence of His existence surrounds you every second of your life. Such evidence includes your life. If your disbelief comes from false religion (the Bible says ALL religions are false) then I can sympathize with you. They all lie and teach things different from what God teaches us. Each and every one of them. In fact, the Bible says they are all "works of the flesh" and that they will all be wiped from the face of the Earth. Soon.

Let me count the ways....or not.

There are various reasons I do not believe in the existence of your god. The main reason is probably that I do not see or have experienced anything at all that indicates an existence of such a being.

My life is what is it is because two people of the opposite sex had unprotected intercourse. Simple bimple.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Your comments prove what your choice is. It is the opposite of mine. You won't know the truth until just before you are destroyed. Sorry. But at least you will know the truth then.

Yes, my choice is not accept a book as holy truth that condones slavery, features a "prophet of god" sending bears to maul children to death for making fun of his baldness, considers women unclean while they are menstruating and has a line that tells them to hang their heads in humility and keep quiet, and I will not accept a book as truth if it features a genocidal god who demanded the deaths of all men, women, and children on numerous occasions.

 

[MikeSavage]

Let me count the ways....or not.

There are various reasons I do not believe in the existence of your god. The main reason is probably that I do not see or have experienced anything at all that indicates an existence of such a being.

My life is what is it is because two people of the opposite sex had unprotected intercourse. Simple bimple.

You may consider changing that. the benefits are uncountable.

 

[Drolefille]

You may consider changing that. the benefits are uncountable.

Again, you say so... But aren't very convincing

 

[Shadow Wolf]

You may consider changing that. the benefits are uncountable.

The benefits, for me, of ending all associations with the church and forsaking Christianity have been great. Without Christianity, I had to open my eyes to see the world for what it is, open my mind to take in other view points (which, having AS, this was extremely beneficial), and open up my own perspectives as I was suddenly allowed to study and dabble in things I had previously saw as bad. I've learned how to accept myself and others, I have grown in knowledge and wisdom, my abilities to think have expanded significantly, my grades at school have dramatically improved (mostly Cs and some Ds and an F to As and maybe 4 or 5 Bs), and I have learned if I want something I have to do it rather than hope it is the will of god to allow me to have/do certain things. Overall, I have become a much better and stronger person because I ceased being a Christian.

 

[MikeSavage]

The benefits, for me, of ending all associations with the church and forsaking Christianity have been great. Without Christianity, I had to open my eyes to see the world for what it is, open my mind to take in other view points (which, having AS, this was extremely beneficial), and open up my own perspectives as I was suddenly allowed to study and dabble in things I had previously saw as bad. I've learned how to accept myself and others, I have grown in knowledge and wisdom, my abilities to think have expanded significantly, my grades at school have dramatically improved (mostly Cs and some Ds and an F to As and maybe 4 or 5 Bs), and I have learned if I want something I have to do it rather than hope it is the will of god to allow me to have/do certain things. Overall, I have become a much better and stronger person because I ceased being a Christian.

You mean Christendom, not Christianity. Religions "claiming" to be Christian, are not, they are lying. No real Christian would ever be part of any sect/denomination of Christianity. They would only be part of the original.

 

[MikeSavage]

Again, you say so... But aren't very convincing

It wasn't my intention to "convince" you. I am simply making a suggestion.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

You mean Christendom, not Christianity. Religions "claiming" to be Christian, are not, they are lying. No real Christian would ever be part of any sect/denomination of Christianity. They would only be part of the original.

Regardless, I'm still better off without.

 

[MikeSavage]

Regardless, I'm still better off without.

Without the false religions, yes. Anyone would be better off without them. Christianity, what Jesus taught when on earth, ANYONE would be MUCH BETTER off WITH it. It's not a religion, it's what he called "the one true faith". It's ONLY what the Bible teachses, nothing more, nothing less. The benefits, albeit quite impossible to explain, are TREMENDOUS and life changing.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Without the false religions, yes. Anyone would be better off without them.

Just because you call it my faith false does not mean it was. You don't even know what sort of church I went to, or even if I went at all. Actually one of the problems I had was people insisting everybody else's faith is wrong, and the arrogance of the statement that no "real" Christian would leave (afterall, who else but god really gets to judge who is real and who isn't).
I'm much better off without any of it.

 

[MikeSavage]

Just because you call it my faith false does not mean it was. You don't even know what sort of church I went to, or even if I went at all. Actually one of the problems I had was people insisting everybody else's faith is wrong, and the arrogance of the statement that no "real" Christian would leave (afterall, who else but god really gets to judge who is real and who isn't).
I'm much better off without any of it.

Nothing I ever post comes just from me. It is ALL from the scriptures. THEY say that all sects/denominations are false religion, and also say ALL religion and government on Earth is to be completely destroyed, along with all participants. According to the scriptures, the ONLY faith God approves is the one He sent His son to teach while he was on Earth, until his murder by the Jews. I wouldn't post anything that came from my own thoughts. What Jesus taught isn't a religion as people think of religion. ALL sects/denominations of Christianity are a sect (section) or denomination (different teachings than the bible) of the original Christianity that Jesus taught. They all teach things different from the scriptures, and they ALL teach things different from all other sects/denominations. See the problem here? I am speaking only of the original, not some human's idea of what God SHOULD have said, but what God ACTUALLY said. There is a HUGE difference.

Simply by virtue of it being a "religion" with clergy is proof positive that it's not what Jesus taught. All religion invented by man (and that includes ALL of them), according to God and according to Jesus, is false.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Simply by virtue of it being a "religion" with clergy is proof positive that it's not what Jesus taught. All religion invented by man (and that includes ALL of them), according to God and according to Jesus, is false.

You're trying to judge my former religion, and you are completely missing the mark. To my former religion, "church" was not a building, and it wasn't the clergy, but we had the same mentality that everybody else that wasn't one of us was wrong. You are continuing to do one of the things I said was a reason I exorcized the Holy Spirit from myself, and denounced the Lamb and Father. The Bible clearly states that we are not to judge one another, as that is left for god to do, but those who pick up the banner of Christ (in the most generalized way I can think to put it) are so very often the first ones to judge.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

what Jesus taught when on earth,

But Jesus didn't say "Love your neighbour as yourself, but only if they're straight" or "Blessed are the heterosexuals for they shall populate the earth"