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The real Messiah!!!

David69

Angel Of The North
.......I have been a atheist for 30+ yrs since the last three and I still cant come to terms with God or whom these thoughts are making me beleive who I am!!!.....

You are a athiest yourself????
So you don't believe in yourself either.
The God that send the Messiah - you don't know if He really exists or not
You somewhere called Lucifer your father/God

You are one confused human being!!!
People won't take you seriously,no matter how you try.
You should change doctors , my friend!!!
Urgently.

OH! :confused: This is from post 37!!!

"It is hard for many good people in society to understand the person of the Messiah. The leadership and order of a Messiah of flesh and blood is hard to accept for many in the nation. As leader, the Messiah will not hold any office, but will be among the people and use the media to communicate. His reign will be pure and without personal or political desire. During his dominion, only righteousness and truth will reign.
"Will all believe in the Messiah right away? No, in the beginning some of us will believe in him and some not. It will be easier for non-religious people to follow the Messiah than for Orthodox people.

"The revelation of the Messiah will be fullled in two stages: First, he will actively confirm his position as Messiah without knowing himself that he is the Messiah. Then he will reveal himself to some Jews, not necessarily to wise Torah scholars. It can be even simple people. Only then he will reveal himself to the whole nation. -The people will wonder and say: ‘What, that’s the Messiah?’ Many have known his name but have not believed that he is the Messiah."

Hey John please read from where you last posted on this thread yesterday man! I havent wrote you replys for nothing!!! ;)

Actually you wanna read all that article.. it may peak even your interest ;)

Thanks
Just David!
 

John D

Spiritsurfer
OH! :confused: This is from post 37!!!

"It is hard for many good people in society to understand the person of the Messiah. The leadership and order of a Messiah of flesh and blood is hard to accept for many in the nation. As leader, the Messiah will not hold any office, but will be among the people and use the media to communicate. His reign will be pure and without personal or political desire. During his dominion, only righteousness and truth will reign.
"Will all believe in the Messiah right away? No, in the beginning some of us will believe in him and some not. It will be easier for non-religious people to follow the Messiah than for Orthodox people.
"The revelation of the Messiah will be fullled in two stages: First, he will actively confirm his position as Messiah without knowing himself that he is the Messiah. Then he will reveal himself to some Jews, not necessarily to wise Torah scholars. It can be even simple people. Only then he will reveal himself to the whole nation. -The people will wonder and say: ‘What, that’s the Messiah?’ Many have known his name but have not believed that he is the Messiah."

Hey John please read from where you last posted on this thread yesterday man! I havent wrote you replys for nothing!!! ;)

Actually you wanna read all that article.. it may peak even your interest ;)

Thanks
Just David!

David, I am Serious...
I don't like people walking all over somebody like you.
People are bound to post some nasty stuff.
This is something you have to sort out on your own in private. The more you try to convince people to accept the things you are saying, the more they are going to make fun of you. You are the only one that can change the reactions.
Blessings to you, David !!!


 

David69

Angel Of The North
David, I am Serious...
I don't like people walking all over somebody like you.
People are bound to post some nasty stuff.
This is something you have to sort out on your own in private. The more you try to convince people to accept the things you are saying, the more they are going to make fun of you. You are the only one that can change the reactions.
Blessings to you, David !!!

I hear you! Thanks John. btw I said I was atheist up untill 3 years ago!
 
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challupa

Well-Known Member
I hear you! Thanks John. btw I said I was atheist up untill 3 years ago!
What changed your mind then? You stated earlier that you have had precognitive events happening since you were young. I did read the whole article. I don't understand why you might think it is you. Do you? It just sounds like the Rabbi was a closet Christian who believes Christ is coming back. Or, it was a forgery like his son says. In any case, I didn't believe in the first Christ being a Messiah or divine, so I don't think there is any chance the second Messiah will be any different. I'm sorry but I have never been able to believe these myths.
 

David69

Angel Of The North
What changed your mind then? You stated earlier that you have had precognitive events happening since you were young. I did read the whole article. I don't understand why you might think it is you. Do you? It just sounds like the Rabbi was a closet Christian who believes Christ is coming back. Or, it was a forgery like his son says. In any case, I didn't believe in the first Christ being a Messiah or divine, so I don't think there is any chance the second Messiah will be any different. I'm sorry but I have never been able to believe these myths.

Well, I have had many events but how does a child understand meaning!
Maybe I am a bit on the slow side but it took me 40 yrs to peice the whole picture together! It happened by many, many events. It wasnt until about three years ago that I came to understand who I am. I never recognised Religion, (for about 37yrs) I seen it as evil (God Jesus, Lucifer,Religion, any God etc) I just had hatred for these things because I was blinded by what I was experiencing. (I supose I was anti-christ then eh!) You see I was a big sceptic and I only beleived what I seen with my own eyes but then I had to make sense of it all, Not that easy for someone that had a bad education. I never read books or watched programs on tv about Religion or supernatural. I was scared of God (still am) But you see, I had this strong urge to go and seek out to learn about what it was that I have experienced. I never accept anyone that says Beleive beleive beleive because it wiffs of manipulation! It might seam to people here that thats exactly what I am doing but wher do I say beleive?
Whatever it is that has been guiding me is letting me see formyself the truth!!!
So I cannot just ignore that, can I! I have many true storys to tell, I wrote a couple of posts in the vampyre thread that you might be interested in... one inparticular was a haunting and this "being" that I have seen several times let rip, I mean a propper haunting with witnesses. (It was me doing that and I wasnt aware way back then) after that night, I was waking up every night for ten years being choked and another hand clutching at my heart!! But You would never guess the truth that I came to!!! It seams with every new realisation of the self, I am ready to take the next step and the learning speed up. Anyways I could talk for weeeks, months or even years and still not finish what I have to say, as I experienc all the time.
What makes me think that it is me?
I can try and give you some explanations but its pointless if you dont beleive in Religions etc.

Alright, let me mention a few things that got me thinking!

I never spoke until I was about five. I said to my Mother when I come out of a day dream: Mam when I get older I am going to live in high places and drink wine!
My mother says after I had been sitting there in a world of my own I would come to and say the strangest things! I would see things that werent there to others but then the things that I seen would manifest to them later! and I would know things before they would happen etc.
I would suffer all illnesses that I would see or hear about. My mother was sick of taking me to the doctors. It would be real to me! I would actually feel pain and feel ill etc.
My right arm was always weak and when I was in my twentys the muscles used to pull and I could hardly move for days.
I read somewhere that God was suposed to snap Lucifers right wing, slung him to earth and inflict all worldly diseases on him!!!
I know now that I am a subconscious communicator!! I read not long ago that the only power of the anti-christ, false messiah Is communication, suposedly stolen from God. Now people will be confused that I recognise myseelf with Lucifer and Jesus and the bibles etc are confusing because they promise these two beings for example...
Lucifers chosen one: The anti christ or False prophet: He is suposed to be the only one with this code or the one that crosses the abyss filling it in with light (filling in the unknown or the blanks) explains my personallity I have a brother Peter but mostly seen as brother P. Alot thats mentioned about him is me! I rule the world with an iron fist I deceive the nations etc and wipe out billions etc...
Now the real messiah, well you read that article!! Thats also me. Now I bet they are waiting for someone called David! and I am just the way that I am. I already declare who I am to a jew and it turned out to be the only jew that I know... hes my Gp, but theres a story behind how he got to be my GP.
Jesus "I send forth my Angel, I am the root of David, we are one! I seen another version but this time before this statement he promised to Take peter with him to be reborn on earth with him!, I have a brother called Peter and his birthday overlaps Jesus Birthday, Boxing Day! and he is a fisherman.
And I beleive that if Jesus is saying what I think he is then imo He will forfill the prophecys through me!... Dam repeating myself lol, I forget thhat you have fully read this Thread. There lots of experience that I have had to make me beleive that I am that one and I dont like it just as much as folks here dont like me mentioning it. I am on a journey for my sanity!
Thanks for your interest. I will be happy to try and answer your questions.

David.
 

David69

Angel Of The North
By the way his son says the note is a forgery because he mightned want to admit that because to him it would be insane but didnt he say that there were other papers. There was no clue how to decipher the code or something like that. not all papers were handed over.

this is what I meant:

When the name of Yehoshua appeared in Kaduri’s message, ultra-Orthodox Jews from his Nahalat Yitzhak Yeshiva (seminary) in Jerusalem argued that their master did not leave the exact solution for decoding the Messiah’s name.

I beleif that his son is well aware of the messiah
 
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challupa

Well-Known Member
Well David, I've got to say I can't even start to understand. I have no answers for you. It certainly sounds like you are going through a quite confusing time. I wish you luck with sorting out the truth of things.
 

Rev. White

Reverend Jedi Master
It's spelled "psychosis", and if you have it, chances are you aren't going to believe you do. A person experiencing psychosis has a distorted sense of reality, or delusions, and will often fiercely deny their condition. I'm not saying you are, friend, just a bit of neighborly advice.

:monkey:
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
It's spelled "psychosis", and if you have it, chances are you aren't going to believe you do....

That depends on the severity of the psychosis.

What you are describing is quite extreme and rare.
 

Rev. White

Reverend Jedi Master
That depends on the severity of the psychosis.

What you are describing is quite extreme and rare.

I'm no expert, just pointing out that a doctor diagnosing a person who thinks they are the messiah as experiencing psychosis, would most often be correct. If the person seriously believed in their delusion, then they would reject the diagnosis, just as the OP says he has. Correct?
 

David69

Angel Of The North
That depends on the severity of the psychosis.

What you are describing is quite extreme and rare.
Hi angellous-evangellous,
Hi, Yes, I have been told that people with Psycosis deny they have psycosis but they get medications and they stop hearing and seeing things that arent there!

With me its different. If you read the first post... The health profecionalls, one inparticular, she first introduced herself as a psycosis profecional And she says I was going to be accesed etc. I was under the impression I was going to be diagnosed by the specialists instead of by the GP. I spent 4hrs with her and at the end I asked her if I had psycosis or not. She jumped on the defensive saying that it is not her job to diagnose me... so when she calmed down and switched on again, I asked her... Well in your opinion what do you think... have I got it? She says "welllll, maaaaybe A BIT, but it is allll that detail!!! and even if it is like you claim and you have many people to back you up, it cant be prooved!!!
Those anti psycotic drug dont stop me thinking the way I do or for me to have insights. and these doctors are not imuned to my "comunication" !!!! I told her I dont have to sit there and say a thing to try and convince anyone... They see for themselves the truth. I am here for yous to convince me that I have psycosis! (Im sure there is tests they can do to find out what is happening in my brain that is different to the norm! when I trance etc. but imo, they wont wanna go down that road)

I had been seeing a ex factory worker that I had connected with, ten years ago, (three true ghosty storys while I worked there) months before the health profecionalls first sent a male nurse to start home visits. Anyways This factory worker was the managet of the factory and he used to ride a bike to work several times a week and he was mean to the workers. and I didnt like how he treat people and one day I was foaming as I heard a womans voice in my head that was slating me in a nasty way and I went blind for several seconds, I was foaming. The manager started to blank me becaus I had to disclose med I was on. but a tale went around that I was high etc. where the truth was they were for to stop me smoking and to combat the symtoms of withdrawl. I only thought, "That bloke hasnt got a heart, he needs to change for the best!" I left shortly after. about a couple of month later, I seen the security guard when I went back to pick up a couple of things and he says that shortly after I left the manager felt unwell, drove himself upto the hostpital and colapsed with a heart attack! He says you wouldnt recognise him now. He helps peolpe that fall behind with there work, and spends time with talking to them.. the workers even like the man now!!! you could argue that everyone that sufferes a heart attack will change in that way!
Anyways as I was saying... years later I seen him riding his bike up this steep bank next to mine and over a couple of month I seen him about a dozen times in places that manager wouldnt go. It was strange I supose and once I was driving and I seen him again but my wife says she didnt see him and we must of passed by the time she looked! Sometimes I see and people do to but on rarer occasions they dont!
I asked myself, why am I keep seeing this manager everywher I drive!!!!
When My first apointment came, The male nurse knocked at the door and when I noticed him I then understood!! He was the absolute double of the manager. because I had seen him I new there were a reason for it and I could trust this person!!! So he got to know my life story and he admitted that in his opinion I am for real!!! as in, erm I dont know a word to put it lol ... you know insights seeing and knowing things etc... ermmm, nothing to do with psycosis!
That night I woke up and couldnt move, I senced this person crouching down behind me on the floor, my vision crossed the room and I could see myself and this berson crouching down behind me. so there I am and after several attempts to move, I grabbed his head and smashed it through the floor. (i mightened of moved for real but I couldnt move for days after it lol) My wife seen him in the same place for a second weeks later.. He would of been thinking about me imo
anyways, hes the guy that I helped with his daughter that had been haunted since she was five. Now it has stopped. My GP doesnt put anything into my mind but he recognises some kinda powers I have and at first hand to... I think the jew knows I havent got psycosis but as he is profecional and I told him a story of this strange man dressed like a magician that I seen and it was like no one recognised him apart from me..... he had to diagnose psycosis and If I am the chosen one then I will be doing just as I am doing, no more, no less imo.

Cheers!
David69
 
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David69

Angel Of The North
It's spelled "psychosis", and if you have it, chances are you aren't going to believe you do. A person experiencing psychosis has a distorted sense of reality, or delusions, and will often fiercely deny their condition. I'm not saying you are, friend, just a bit of neighborly advice.

:monkey:

Oh look, a spelling mistake! :rolleyes: :cover:
 

David69

Angel Of The North
Well David, I've got to say I can't even start to understand. I have no answers for you. It certainly sounds like you are going through a quite confusing time. I wish you luck with sorting out the truth of things.

Thanks Challupa for taking the time to discuss it with me... apreciated :)
Usually, through past experience people cant explain and I was told by one its becaus I am further down the rabbit hole than anyone and there wont be many people quallified to fully understand... but it is my opinion theres people that have had simular experiences that want to share veiws (they dont necceserrrily think there God btw lol... Magical experiences maybe) so we can learn by each other.
cheers!
David69
 

David69

Angel Of The North
Yeah, the true messiah uses spell-check. sorry. ;)

Well he would if he had the powers to get the spell check working lol
usually I post in a hurry and its full of mistakes but to be honest I am busy, I have three kids and I do most of the cooking and tending to the kids and I have other things to do that get in the way of me doing a perfect post lol... Anyways people have had a poke at me about my spelling and it bothers me... not at all. They understand well what I am saying because they are the smart cookies, right! :D

Take care REV

David
 

David69

Angel Of The North
so wheres all the mass debaters then lol

No questions!

Heres the real messiah and all the good people want to do is put him down! Why then would he want to be the saviour of the world? why would he bother!

If he is not me I would ask many things! Humour me.
 

Student of X

Paradigm Shifter
so wheres all the mass debaters then lol

No questions!

Heres the real messiah and all the good people want to do is put him down! Why then would he want to be the saviour of the world? why would he bother!

If he is not me I would ask many things! Humour me.

I have a question for you about Lucifer residing within your subconscious. In your subconscious, what archetype does Lucifer represent?
 
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