The Supreme Court will decide if Donald Trump can be kept off 2024 presidential ballots

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Did she storm the Capitol and ask for new electors to be sent? IOW, you're using "false equivalence".

No, let me ask you if someone takes a shot at Trump because Biden keeps comparing him to Hitler would you hold Biden accountable? Want him in jail?

Why Biden's campaign keeps linking Trump to Hitler

The Biden campaign warns that Trump’s rhetoric — from "vermin" to "poisoned" blood — could reflect history repeating.

www.politico.com

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

As pointed out to you several times now, he didn't make that video until a couple of hours into the insurrection (after he'd been gleefully watching it unfold on television), after everyone around him, including his children, had been begging and begging for him to call it off.

And what happened when he put this video out calling it off? His supporters listened to him and started dispersing.
Imagine if he'd only posted that video at the START of the insurrection, how many lives and damage could have been saved.

The rioters are responsible. They took it upon themselves to go do something no one told them to do.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

No, let me ask you if someone takes a shot at Trump because Biden keeps comparing him to Hitler would you hold Biden accountable? Want him in jail?

Why Biden's campaign keeps linking Trump to Hitler

The Biden campaign warns that Trump’s rhetoric — from "vermin" to "poisoned" blood — could reflect history repeating.

www.politico.com

There is not necessarily any connection between Biden's remarks about Trump, and Trumps fate.
There seem to be plenty of people that would consider being able to shoot Tump, to be a privilege, that would require no prompting.
Not that I would expect Biden to object to that outcome were it to occur.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

There is not necessarily any connection between Biden's remarks about Trump, and Trumps fate.

What if someone shot at Trump and said he did it because Biden compared him to Hitler.

There seem to be plenty of people that would consider being able to shoot Tump, to be a privilege, that would require no prompting.
Not that I would expect Biden to object to that outcome were it to occur.

Sick

 

[metis]

I've heard it. So what does "find" mean? It means to locate something that already exists. If those votes existed, why shouldn't they be found and counted?

Nope, so obviously you didn't listen to it as Trump takes it further and states he needs just enough to beat Biden by one vote.

Here's the phone call you didn't look up, and the part about the 11,780 votes is somewhere around halfway.

 

[Subduction Zone]

So that is your standard, what you think he should have done. You would have had no problem if he said that 3 hours earlier?

You are not accurately representing my stance. Try again.

 

[metis]

No, let me ask you if someone takes a shot at Trump because Biden keeps comparing him to Hitler would you hold Biden accountable? Want him in jail?

Why Biden's campaign keeps linking Trump to Hitler

The Biden campaign warns that Trump’s rhetoric — from "vermin" to "poisoned" blood — could reflect history repeating.

www.politico.com

Trump clearly is a neo-fascist; however, I simply don't believe he should be compared to Hitler.

 

[Subduction Zone]

So believing something that is untrue is a lie? Your interpretation does not allow anyone ever to question an election. He has the right to question it. He never said for anyone to riot.

See above. If you want a conversation you must at least try to be an honest interlocutor.

 

[metis]

The rioters are responsible. They took it upon themselves to go do something no one told them to do.

Many of them when prosecuted said they did it because they believed Trump told them to do so. And if Trump didn't mean that, then why did he take almost four hours while he watched them on t.v. before he told them to go home?

 

[Subduction Zone]

No, let me ask you if someone takes a shot at Trump because Biden keeps comparing him to Hitler would you hold Biden accountable? Want him in jail?

Why Biden's campaign keeps linking Trump to Hitler

The Biden campaign warns that Trump’s rhetoric — from "vermin" to "poisoned" blood — could reflect history repeating.

www.politico.com

There is a big difference. Trump openly lied to his crowd. Biden has been honest. Lately the rhetoric of Trump has become so close to that of Hitler that some are wondering if he is copying him on purpose.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Trump clearly is a neo-fascist; however, I simply don't believe he should be compared to Hitler.

I think that it is a valid concern that he is using the same terminology that Hitler used in reference to the Jews and other minorities. Trump tends to label most asylum seekers that way.

 

[Callisto]

If someone dies as a result of those injuries, yes, that is "lives lost".

Well, that's not the case here.

The DOJ, Capitol Police, and the D.C. Police & Firefighters Retirement and Relief Board ruled deaths like Jeffrey Smith's suicide and Brian Sicknick's fatal strokes are deaths in the line of duty.

Whereas Officer Kyle DeFreytag's suicide was not as he was deployed after the mob had been cleared from the building and was not attacked by the mob.

 

[metis]

I think that it is a valid concern that he is using the same terminology that Hitler used in reference to the Jews and other minorities. Trump tends to label most asylum seekers that way.

I understand but I don't think Biden should parrot Trump.

 

[Callisto]

A heart attack can't be proven to be the cause of anything other than a person's underlying health problems.

That's not correct.

Officer Michael Fanone was pulled from the police line by an individual named Albuquerque Head:

"Head pulled Fanone by the neck into the crowd, separating him from other officers.​

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'If you listen to the audio on the body-worn camera, he’s the one that shouts out, ‘I got one.' After that, I was beaten; I had my police badge and radio stripped from my vest; and at one point another individual, Daniel Rodriguez from the state of California struck me multiple times with a taser device that he acquired at the rally and electrocuted me,'​

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Fanone was tased multiple times and ultimately suffered both a heart attack and a traumatic brain injury. Footage of his attack was captured by his own body camera."​

Retired D.C. Officer Michael Fanone, hurt on Jan. 6, speaks out against violent rhetoric

 

[Laniakea]

There is not necessarily any connection between Biden's remarks about Trump, and Trumps fate.
There seem to be plenty of people that would consider being able to shoot Tump, to be a privilege, that would require no prompting.
Not that I would expect Biden to object to that outcome were it to occur.

Notice how these people like to say that Trump "incited" anything bad that happens, but if something bad happens to Trump, then it's just "fate".
There's no use in trying to reason with these people. Only in opposing them and defeating them.

 

[Laniakea]

See above. If you want a conversation you must at least try to be an honest interlocutor.

That tired old line.
Do you use that on everyone who proves you wrong?

 

[Laniakea]

There is a big difference. Trump openly lied to his crowd. Biden has been honest. Lately the rhetoric of Trump has become so close to that of Hitler that some are wondering if he is copying him on purpose.

Biden and the democrats who collude with him to bankrupt and put a political opponent in prison until he dies makes us wonder if they are copying Putin on purpose.

 

[metis]

Notice how these people like to say that Trump "incited" anything bad that happens, but if something bad happens to Trump, then it's just "fate".

That is not even remotely an honest statement, so maybe work on rewording it.

 

[Laniakea]

The DOJ, Capitol Police, and the D.C. Police & Firefighters Retirement and Relief Board ruled deaths like Jeffrey Smith's suicide and Brian Sicknick's fatal strokes are deaths in the line of duty.

Whereas Officer Kyle DeFreytag's suicide was not as he was deployed after the mob had been cleared from the building and was not attacked by the mob.

Their own organizations took their side? Wow!!!

 

[metis]

Their own organizations took their side? Wow!!!

You make fun out of people's deaths at the hands of Trump's supporters, so how is it even possible to have a serious discussion with one who does this? Have you no shame?