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The Supreme Court will decide if Donald Trump can be kept off 2024 presidential ballots

Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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Laniakea said:
Biden and the democrats who collude with him to bankrupt and put a political opponent in prison until he dies makes us wonder if they are copying Putin on purpose.
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How do you conflate justice and collusion? Trump has been under investigation for quite a while. He was under investigation before he ran for President. It can take a long time to gather evidence. And then Trump himself forced certain parties to speed up their work.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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Laniakea said:
Notice how these people like to say that Trump "incited" anything bad that happens, but if something bad happens to Trump, then it's just "fate".
There's no use in trying to reason with these people. Only in opposing them and defeating them.
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What has happened to Trump that has not been punishment for his own illegal activities?
 
Laniakea

Laniakea

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metis said:
You make fun out of people's deaths at the hands of Trump's supporters, so how is it even possible to have a serious discussion with one who does this? Have you no shame?
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I was making fun of YOU for believing that an organization that automatically supports its own people would do otherwise.
And also for thinking that they are a credible source to prove your assertion.
 
Laniakea

Laniakea

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Subduction Zone said:
How do you conflate justice and collusion? Trump has been under investigation for quite a while. He was under investigation before he ran for President. It can take a long time to gather evidence. And then Trump himself forced certain parties to speed up their work.
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Sounds like a good case to support what happened to Navalny in Russia. Investigated, found guilty, imprisoned, died of natural causes. Sounds all legal, so it must be ok.
 
Laniakea

Laniakea

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Subduction Zone said:
Coming from you that is a statement that I was correct. I am sure that you have been right once or twice in all of these discussions so denial from you is confirmation for me.
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Liberals usually do see and hear the opposites of everything, so I'm not surprised.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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Laniakea said:
Sounds like a good case to support what happened to Navalny in Russia. Investigated, found guilty, imprisoned, died of natural causes. Sounds all legal, so it must be ok.
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Except that Navalny was not guilty. He did not get a fair trial.

It is too bad that you ignore what actually happens at the trials.

For example, I bet that you cannot even say how Trump lied about his Mar a Lago golf course.
 
Laniakea

Laniakea

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Subduction Zone said:
Except that Navalny was not guilty. He did not get a fair trial.

It is too bad that you ignore what actually happens at the trials.

For example, I bet that you cannot even say how Trump lied about his Mar a Lago golf course.
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So then what was he? He was tried and convicted. The legal process was satisfied.
I hope you're not going to come up with some Russian conspiracy theory.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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Laniakea said:
So then what was he? He was tried and convicted. The legal process was satisfied.
I hope you're not going to come up with some Russian conspiracy theory.
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Do you really trust Russian courts under Putin? Russia is not really a democracy right now. It is a dictatorship trying to cover up that fact. That is hardly a "conspiracy".
 
Laniakea

Laniakea

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Subduction Zone said:
Do you really trust Russian courts under Putin? Russia is not really a democracy right now. It is a dictatorship trying to cover up that fact. That is hardly a "conspiracy".
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Why are you concerned about who I trust? I don't trust a Russian court any more than I would trust a court run by a liberal judge with a jury of 12 liberals. Would you trust a court (even the Supreme Court of the United states) if it was staffed mostly by conservatives? From past posting on this site, I believe the answer would be an emphatic no.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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Laniakea said:
Why are you concerned about who I trust? I don't trust a Russian court any more than I would trust a court run by a liberal judge with a jury of 12 liberals. Would you trust a court (even the Supreme Court of the United states) if it was staffed mostly by conservatives? From past posting on this site, I believe the answer would be an emphatic no.
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Just because a judge is honest does not make him "liberal". When Trump started 60 different lawsuits in regards to claimed cheating in the election the judges that all found against him were not "liberal". They were honest. Do you know why no evidence at all was submitted in many of those trials? It was because lawyers are not idiots. The so called evidence that they were given was often so bad that the lawyers could see that they would be sanctioned for submitting it.

And if one cannot get at least one conservative on a jury then that lawyer should get out of the business. Both sides have a say as to who is on the jury. You also seem to be constantly conflating "conservative" with Trump supporter. Trump drove many of the conservative Republicans out of the party. What do you think that the Lincoln Project is?
 
Terrywoodenpic

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Clizby Wampuscat said:
What if someone shot at Trump and said he did it because Biden compared him to Hitler.

Sick
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Pretty unlikely for anyone to say that, murderers rarely admit their guilt. What they do say is whatever might mitigate their actions and punishment, so unreliable in court, without corroborating evidence.
 
Terrywoodenpic

Terrywoodenpic

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There seems to be a considerable change in how people are openly discussing the possible violent death of Trump.
This was not the case prior to the last election.
The recent likening him to Hitler may be an indicator of this. Though his poses and facial expressions are far more similar to those of the first fascist leader Mussolini. As is his rhetoric style.

It is. Both true and evident that the fascist style rhetoric is extremely effective in aligninng the emotions and thoughtless actions of the masses towards that desired by the speaker. No doubt Trump is aware of this and is making full use of it., as we saw him do prior to the storming of Congress.
 
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