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The Supreme Court will decide if Donald Trump can be kept off 2024 presidential ballots

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I was making fun of YOU for believing that an organization that automatically supports its own people would do otherwise.
And also for thinking that they are a credible source to prove your assertion.

Laughing at people who were appalled at the deaths and injuries on Jan. 6th is blatantly immoral, imo, and no song & dance by you changes that. Maybe you need to get an informed conscience because you seemingly lack both.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
Laughing at people who were appalled at the deaths and injuries on Jan. 6th is blatantly immoral, imo, and no song & dance by you changes that. Maybe you need to get an informed conscience because you seemingly lack both.
I deal with people here all the time who still believe Jan. 6th was far worse than even 9/11, even though the number killed on 9/11 was in the thousands, while only one died on Jan. 6th, and that at the hands of a black cop shooting an unarmed white woman. So yeah, I will laugh at those of you who think Jan. 6th was "worse".
Being "appalled at the deaths" is clearly not what you're concerned about.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I deal with people here all the time who still believe Jan. 6th was far worse than even 9/11, even though the number killed on 9/11 was in the thousands, while only one died on Jan. 6th, and that at the hands of a black cop shooting an unarmed white woman. So yeah, I will laugh at those of you who think Jan. 6th was "worse".
Being "appalled at the deaths" is clearly not what you're concerned about.
9/11 was never a threat to our democracy. 1/6 was. Just think, if we had a Vice President that was as corrupt as the President at that time things could have been far far worse.
 

Copernicus

Industrial Strength Linguist
Laughing at people who were appalled at the deaths and injuries on Jan. 6th is blatantly immoral, imo, and no song & dance by you changes that. Maybe you need to get an informed conscience because you seemingly lack both.
I deal with people here all the time who still believe Jan. 6th was far worse than even 9/11, even though the number killed on 9/11 was in the thousands, while only one died on Jan. 6th, and that at the hands of a black cop shooting an unarmed white woman. So yeah, I will laugh at those of you who think Jan. 6th was "worse".
Being "appalled at the deaths" is clearly not what you're concerned about.

But metis was not commenting on the numbers of people killed and injured. Rather, he was commenting on a dismissive reaction to those deaths and injuries. The reference to 9/11 is just an attempt to deflect by engaging in whataboutism. As Subduction Zone points out, the threats posed by the two incidents were not really similar. 9/11 was a violent attack by a foreign terrorist group, whereas January 6 was a domestic planned attempt to violently disrupt an official act of Congress for the purpose of keeping the loser of an election in an office he was not entitled to. Hence, it has been treated as an act of insurrection.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
9/11 was never a threat to our democracy. 1/6 was. Just think, if we had a Vice President that was as corrupt as the President at that time things could have been far far worse.
I was hoping for a serious look at the two events before you responded.
Would you mind giving it serious thought before replying again?
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
But metis was not commenting on the numbers of people killed and injured. Rather, he was commenting on a dismissive reaction to those deaths and injuries. The reference to 9/11 is just an attempt to deflect by engaging in whataboutism. As Subduction Zone points out, the threats posed by the two incidents were not really similar. 9/11 was a violent attack by a foreign terrorist group, whereas January 6 was a domestic planned attempt to violently disrupt an official act of Congress for the purpose of keeping the loser of an election in an office he was not entitled to. Hence, it has been treated as an act of insurrection.
And 9/11 is often simply referred to as "some people doing some things", and "a couple of buildings being knocked down."
You can frame a narrative any way you like to try to make your own stance appear to be more important.
Democracy must be super-fragile if it can be overthrown by people with flag poles.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Democracy must be super-fragile if it can be overthrown by people with flag poles.
Biden is predsident, so democracy prevailed because the right people did their jobs, like pence who didn't give in to Trump's threats.

It is your side that took flag poles to democracy, and your side lost both the election, and the attack on democracy. Your side is the failure, over and over again. You can't win while democracy is strong.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
It depends on whether the person explaining it is doing a good job of it. Considering the explainer in question at the moment, it could be more than you may like.
If it was only one person explaining to you you might have a valid point. But when everyone explains your errors to you and you do not understand then it would be a you problem and not a me problem.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
Biden is predsident, so democracy prevailed because the right people did their jobs, like pence who didn't give in to Trump's threats.

It is your side that took flag poles to democracy, and your side lost both the election, and the attack on democracy. Your side is the failure, over and over again. You can't win while democracy is strong.
You're obviously not all that convinced that it's strong if you believe people with flagpoles almost overthrew it.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
If it was only one person explaining to you you might have a valid point. But when everyone explains your errors to you and you do not understand then it would be a you problem and not a me problem.
Oh, come on! What happened to being a polite interlocutor???
Care to try again?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Oh, come on! What happened to being a polite interlocutor???
Care to try again.

There was nothing rude there. You screwed up in an epic manner again and tried to blame others for your failure.

What on Earth was rude about that post? You are extremely thin skinned if a correction with no insults is "rude".
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
There was nothing rude there. You screwed up in an epic manner again and tried to blame others for your failure.

What on Earth was rude about that post? You are extremely thin skinned if a correction with no insults is "rude".
Calling someone "thinned skinned" is not polite. Oh my! Do I really have to explain this to you?
But I'm more than happy to continue correcting your errors.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
You're obviously not all that convinced that it's strong if you believe people with flagpoles almost overthrew it.
I never said they almost did. Democracy is weak among your side of America, but not with the majority of citizens. No doubt many underestimated the threat Trump and his followers osed to democracy. Trump is still a threat, and his followers dangerous. Law enforcement is keeping tabs on these threats. There is a line between ethical patriots to MAGAs, and we are seeing too many extremists making noise.

As it is MAGAs are not a rational collection of people. They are poorly informed and who knows what they are capable of doing.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
I never said they almost did. Democracy is weak among your side of America, but not with the majority of citizens. No doubt many underestimated the threat Trump and his followers osed to democracy. Trump is still a threat, and his followers dangerous. Law enforcement is keeping tabs on these threats. There is a line between ethical patriots to MAGAs, and we are seeing too many extremists making noise.

As it is MAGAs are not a rational collection of people. They are poorly informed and who knows what they are capable of doing.
Sure! They might even show up with assault flag poles next time, loaded with high capacity star and stripes.
Then you'll see what MAGAs are capable of! :eek:
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
They are capable of ruining their lives and spending time is prison. That's about all they are worth. Not very smart.
And yet you just said: "They are poorly informed and who knows what they are capable of doing."
And that was just 16 minutes ago. Did you already forget?
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
Not so. You overreact when corrected. Calling your out for that is not being rude.
You are not able to correct if you are not informed of facts. You have demonstrated that you do not know the facts, and therefore are not able to do any correcting. Would you like me to explain this to you further?
 
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