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The Supreme Court will decide if Donald Trump can be kept off 2024 presidential ballots

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Why are you concerned about who I trust? I don't trust a Russian court any more than I would trust a court run by a liberal judge with a jury of 12 liberals. Would you trust a court (even the Supreme Court of the United states) if it was staffed mostly by conservatives? From past posting on this site, I believe the answer would be an emphatic no.
So you're not a rational thinking person then. You base your judgments on sweeping generalizations. Got it.
 
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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Evidence required.
What? You have not heard of the FBI informant that testified against Biden in Congress!? Here let me get an article:


Oh. Oh. Oh, that is bad, He was lying all along?

Oops, my bad.

Do not click on the link, just pretend it is not there. I am sure that our Trump supporters can tell you how to do that.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
That statement is an indication that you haven't actually read my posts with understanding, assuming you've read them at all. All of my posts are carefully thought out researched with utmost care. If you do not understand them, that is on you.
The vast majority of your posts are one-liners and attempted quips.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
Did you ever listen to those inside the chambers what they saw, hear, and thought? You can find some of that on YouTube.

I'm more interested in the left wingers here that I've heard saying that they would support an insurrection next January 6th if Trump won. I'm sure there will be a way to justify it if it were to happen.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
I'm more interested in the left wingers here that I've heard saying that they would support an insurrection next January 6th if Trump won. I'm sure there will be a way to justify it if it were to happen.
So ... just more whataboutism. No actual answer to the question.
The evidence is in my post.
Let's see ...


"Biden and the democrats who collude with him to bankrupt and put a political opponent in prison until he dies makes us wonder if they are copying Putin on purpose."

Nope, no evidence there. Just a claim.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Did you ever listen to those inside the chambers what they saw, hear, and thought? You can find some of that on YouTube.

I'm more interested in the left wingers here that I've heard saying that they would support an insurrection next January 6th if Trump won. I'm sure there will be a way to justify it if it were to happen.

The above tells me two things:
1.facts are irrelevant for you, and...
2.where these supposed left-wingers who have proposed they should start their own insurrection? I haven't seen one case of those, although there's no doubt that some are also off-the-wall.
 
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F1fan

Veteran Member
I tend to agree with you as I mentioned much the same in my last post. I tend to think that trying to have an intelligent and honest discussion with him may be totally futile.
I can never tell if far right wingers are really sincere when they post obvious disinformation that they heard on MAGAmedia, or know they are wrong and are weird rebels against democracy and honesty. They remind me of children throwing tantrums, much like Trump himself. My hope is thet MAGA gets defeated in November and it leaves their toxic movement powerless. They will certainly still cause trouble, but they won't have the authority to use government against citizens.

The primary fact is that MAGA does pose a threat to democracy and stability, and we have to pay attention to them showing us exactly what they want to do against anyone who isn't part of their cult. I think it's fair to call MAGA a cult because they operate much like cults do, which is to lie to members, have a central authority figure, and create division between the cult members and others. I've seen MAGAs interviewed and they are like mindless robots who repeat what MAGAmedia has told them to believe. No signs of critical thinking. I can see how these types of people could be used to create another Jan 6 crisis.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I can never tell if far right wingers are really sincere when they post obvious disinformation that they heard on MAGAmedia, or know they are wrong and are weird rebels against democracy and honesty. They remind me of children throwing tantrums, much like Trump himself. My hope is thet MAGA gets defeated in November and it leaves their toxic movement powerless. They will certainly still cause trouble, but they won't have the authority to use government against citizens.

The primary fact is that MAGA does pose a threat to democracy and stability, and we have to pay attention to them showing us exactly what they want to do against anyone who isn't part of their cult. I think it's fair to call MAGA a cult because they operate much like cults do, which is to lie to members, have a central authority figure, and create division between the cult members and others. I've seen MAGAs interviewed and they are like mindless robots who repeat what MAGAmedia has told them to believe. No signs of critical thinking. I can see how these types of people could be used to create another Jan 6 crisis.

I 101% agree with everything you wrote above. As you know, I taught a poli sci course for 25 years, and never in my wildest imagination would I have ever thought we'd have a major party controlled by a man who essentially is neo-fascist.

The MAGA's have lost their minds supporting this lunatic, but it also seemingly indicates that we have a large element that is not committed to democratic values and even the most basic Judeo-Christian/humanistic morality. I never thought I'd ever witness this here in the United States. So many have lost their freaking minds.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I can never tell if far right wingers are really sincere when they post obvious disinformation....
People can believe astoundingly bogus things.
I discern that people on the right are sincere.
(Same goes for the left.)
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
The above tells me two things:
1.facts are irrelevant for you, and...
2.where these supposed left-wingers who have proposed they should start their own insurrection? I haven't seen one case of those, although there's no doubt that some are also off-the-wall.
One of them is right here on this forum. Don't remember the name, but they were telling me that they believed Trump was a big enough threat to the country, they would be willing the break the law and do away with law and order to get him out, no matter what.
Sounds like insurrectionist talk to me.
 
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