The Supreme Court will decide if Donald Trump can be kept off 2024 presidential ballots

[Subduction Zone]

Where I ask a question, you see an accusation. Do you see your error now? It has been pointed out to you before, as you have already learned. Now, Are you ready to answer the question I asked you?

Oh honey, that does not work when you are always in the wrong. And don't assume that those that you are debating with are as ignorant as other MAGA's. Try again. You are not fooling anyone, unless you count yourself.

 

[F1fan]

Including journalists who were there doing their job, as it turns out.

Are you referring to the unethical "journalists" from MAGAmedia who feed Trump's lies to their audiences?

Then you condemn every election where the candidate won the election, but not the popular vote, correct?

I condemn the electoral college system as undemocratic. It is more costly, and is inconsistent among states. And as we see it is vulnerable to fraud. It took Trump to expose the flaws in the system, as it has required ethical people to use it. It wasn't designed for unethical people like Trump and MAGAs. Democracy works only as far as all parties agree that majority gets to decide their representatives. Trump and MAGA continues to pose a threat to democacy, and I hope ethical people prevail in November, and MAGA loses.

The presidency is the only office in the USA that isn't elected by a popular vote. That was set up at a time when states were more independent, mostly due to limited transportation and states were more self-sufficient.

Do you see those elections as insurrections as well?

No, the Jan 6 Trump supporters, who were duped by Trump's lies and other actors who repeated the lies, are the only insurrectionists since the Civil War.

 

[fantome profane]

setting up a fake gallows

Why do you say it was fake?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Why do you say it was fake?

Now, now, let's not jump to hasty conclusions. She may have been there and noted that it lacked structural integrity.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Now, now, let's not jump to hasty conclusions. She may have been there and noted that it lacked structural integrity.

Shoddy <> fake

 

[Laniakea]

Oh honey, that does not work when you are always in the wrong. And don't assume that those that you are debating with are as ignorant as other MAGA's. Try again. You are not fooling anyone, unless you count yourself.

My Dear, you've made a very sexist statement by saying that. Try to remember we no longer live in a man-centered world where only the man is right about everything.

 

[Laniakea]

Are you referring to the unethical "journalists" from MAGAmedia who feed Trump's lies to their audiences?

How about journalists such as Steve Baker, who was one of many journalists who were there to cover the events that occurred on Jan. 6th? He is a conservative, unlike the journalists from NBC, Reuters, CNN, and others who were also there. Steve was shown on camera only doing his job, and not doing any parading, rioting, damaging things, or yelling slogans. Yet, after more than 2 years, they finally decide to arrest him today, even though the Capitol's video shows him not doing anything wrong that day.

 

[Subduction Zone]

My Dear, you've made a very sexist statement by saying that. Try to remember we no longer live in a man-centered world where only the man is right about everything.

What was "sexist" in that post? You are rather confused again. Your gender had nothing to do with how wrong that you were.

But I guess that when you have nothing you have to make up false accusations.

Perhaps you should try to stick to the topic of the thread instead of fretting about your past losses.

 

[Laniakea]

Why do you say it was fake?

What makes you think it was real?

 

[Laniakea]

What was "sexist" in that post? You are rather confused again. Your gender had nothing to do with how wrong that you were.

But I guess that when you have nothing you have to make up false accusations.

Perhaps you should try to stick to the topic of the thread instead of fretting about your past losses.

There you go again, talking about me.
Remember, Trump is the subject of this thread. Trump, who lives under your skin. Trump, who you can't seem to get over.

 

[Subduction Zone]

How about journalists such as Steve Baker, who was one of many journalists who were there to cover the events that occurred on Jan. 6th? He is a conservative, unlike the journalists from NBC, Reuters, CNN, and others who were also there. Steve was shown on camera only doing his job, and not doing any parading, rioting, damaging things, or yelling slogans. Yet, after more than 2 years, they finally decide to arrest him today, even though the Capitol's video shows him not doing anything wrong that day.

There are not many details on his arrest yet so it is far too early to judge. He is a reporter for the far right wing (oops, make that Extreme Right Wing) The Blaze. That harms his claims a bit of being a "journalist". Also there is endless video of that even so he may have done something that we have not seen yet.

Patience is advised. From one source it is supposedly just misdemeanor charges.

 

[Subduction Zone]

There you go again, talking about me.
Remember, Trump is the subject of this thread. Trump, who lives under your skin. Trump, who you can't seem to get over.

You forgot that you made false claims about me. And no, Trump does not live under my skin. I see that far more often with the far right people with TDS. I merely want to see justice done. If Trump by some miracle gets elected I will not be howling at the moon or plotting illegal activities.

 

[Laniakea]

There are not many details on his arrest yet so it is far too early to judge. He is a reporter for the far right wing (oops, make that Extreme Right Wing) The Blaze. That harms his claims a bit of being a "journalist". Also there is endless video of that even so he may have done something that we have not seen yet.

Patience is advised. From one source it is supposedly just misdemeanor charges.

He was an independent journalist at the time he did his job on Jan. 6th.

Also, being arrested and handcuffed by the FBI 2 years after the event seems more opportunistic than being about any kind of justice.

 

[Laniakea]

You forgot that you made false claims about me. And no, Trump does not live under my skin. I see that far more often with the far right people with TDS. I merely want to see justice done. If Trump by some miracle gets elected I will not be howling at the moon or plotting illegal activities.

The moon will be there anyway, just in case you change your mind.

 

[F1fan]

How about journalists such as Steve Baker, who was one of many journalists who were there to cover the events that occurred on Jan. 6th? He is a conservative, unlike the journalists from NBC, Reuters, CNN, and others who were also there. Steve was shown on camera only doing his job, and not doing any parading, rioting, damaging things, or yelling slogans. Yet, after more than 2 years, they finally decide to arrest him today, even though the Capitol's video shows him not doing anything wrong that day.

Don’t know the guy. Don’t know the case. But if he was arrested he was seen on video doing something illegal. It’s possible he is mistaken for someone else. If so Then his attorney will get him off.

I doubt you are well informed about this case. You probably saw it misrepresented on MAGAmedia.

 

[Laniakea]

Don’t know the guy. Don’t know the case. But if he was arrested he was seen on video doing something illegal. It’s possible he is mistaken for someone else. If so Then his attorney will get him off.

I doubt you are well informed about this case. You probably saw it misrepresented on MAGAmedia.

I saw the video. He wasn't doing anything illegal.
But I'm sure the government is quite pleased that you so readily accept any accusations they make against citizens, even before you know what those accusations are. Some citizens are so easy to subject to their influence and propaganda.

 

[F1fan]

I saw the video. He wasn't doing anything illegal.
But I'm sure the government is quite pleased that you so readily accept any accusations they make against citizens, even before you know what those accusations are. Some citizens are so easy to subject to their influence and propaganda.

I saw the video. He wasn't doing anything illegal

So you watched every second he was in the area? How many hours was it?

But I'm sure the government is quite pleased that you so readily accept any accusations they make against citizens, even before you know what those accusations are.

I’m not a paranoid MAGA that excuses criminal acts against the citizens of the United States.

Some citizens are so easy to subject to their influence and propaganda.

Oh the irony. Coming from a MAGA who is duped by Trump…..

Non-MAGAs accept law and order. We support law enforcement holding criminals accountable.

 

[Laniakea]

I’m not a paranoid MAGA that excuses criminal acts against the citizens of the United States.


Oh the irony. Coming from a MAGA who is duped by Trump…..

Non-MAGAs accept law and order. We support law enforcement holding criminals accountable.

None of which explains your side's stance of illegals coming into our country and murdering our citizens.
Your hypocrisy is forgiven though.

 

[Callisto]

What makes you think it was real?

TheDonald’s owner speaks out on why he finally pulled plug on hate-filled site
Washington Post

The Army veteran, a site moderator who owned its domain, watched with growing alarm as racism, threats and QAnon references flourished on the pro-Trump site. His former co-moderators called him a ‘sellout’ who went ‘rogue’ after internal schism.​

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TheDonald’s owner speaks out on why he finally pulled plug on hate-filled site​

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The Army veteran, a site moderator who owned its domain, watched with growing alarm as racism, threats and QAnon references flourished on the pro-Trump site. His former co-moderators called him a ‘sellout’ who went ‘rogue’ after internal schism.​

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Jody Williams knew things had gotten out of hand early last month, when a post on the pro-Trump message board TheDonald included a detailed diagram of how to tie a “hangman’s knot” on a noose.​

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Williams was a moderator for the board and owner of its Web address, so he removed the noose instructions. But within an hour, he said, another moderator quietly restored it near the top of the site. Three days later, on Jan. 6, a real noose was hung on makeshift gallows on the National Mall, amid a violent siege on the U.S. Capitol.​

When Trump started his speech before the Capitol riot, talk on Parler turned to civil war
USA Today

Trump: If Pence 'does the right thing, we win'​

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President Donald Trump is continuing his pressure-campaign against Vice President Mike Pence, telling thousands of supporters falsely that all Pence has to do to stay in office is send Electoral College votes back to the states to be recertified. (Jan. 6)​

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And at 1:04 p.m. Trump said: “So I hope Mike has the courage to do what he has to do. And I hope he doesn’t listen to the RINOs and the stupid people that he’s listening to,” using an acronym for “Republicans in Name Only.”​

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As Trump’s speech ended and his supporters moved toward the Capitol, the conversation online mirrored Trump’s disdain for Pence and other Republicans. But on Parler, the tone was more ominous.​

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“Pence is a traitor,” one user wrote at 1 p.m. “Patriots need to build gallows and start removing these rhinos like Mitch McConnell Mitt Romney and Royal Blunt to name a few,” wrote another at 1:07 p.m. “Traitor. Hang the bast-ard,” wrote another at 1:58 p.m. Mentions of Mike Pence went from a little more than 30 in the hour before Trump told supporters to “show strength” and said Pence “is going to have to come through for us – to about 90 in the hour afterward.​

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That rhetoric online matched actions on the ground. A makeshift gallows was erected at the Capitol.​

US Capitol riot: How social media helped enable attack by die-hard Trump fans
Straits Times.com

"GOTTA OVERWHELM THOSE BARRICADES AND COPS," another user replied. Others chimed in on the discussion, suggesting that they could enter using side doors for visitors or infiltrate the tunnels beneath the Capitol, which they had researched the street entrances to...​

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Mr Trump's die-hard supporters publicly floated some of the exact tactics used to storm the Capitol on Wednesday, in comments that frequently included threats to lawmakers and sentiments of self-martyrdom.​

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"If it came down to it, I wouldn't think twice about dying just so my family and friends can live free," said one The Donald user four days ago.​

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Another replied that "corrupt politicians" "need to hang for their treason", writing: "Bring the wood, build the gallows outside Congress, be mentally prepared to pull them out and string em up."​

 

[Laniakea]

TheDonald’s owner speaks out on why he finally pulled plug on hate-filled site
Washington Post


When Trump started his speech before the Capitol riot, talk on Parler turned to civil war
USA Today


US Capitol riot: How social media helped enable attack by die-hard Trump fans
Straits Times.com

None of which proves that the gallows prop was real.