The War on Christmas comes to Ohio

[Revoltingest]

That is interesting. So then do you believe that that which has not had life can begin to have life? And if so, how so?

That has the faint whiff of being a broad question. But I'll tackle the specific case of a human being coming back to life.....no, they don't after undergoing the biochemical changes associated with dying.
The Body After Death - HowStuffWorks

 

[Sonofason]

That has the faint whiff of being a broad question. But I'll tackle the specific case of a human being coming back to life.....no, they don't after undergoing the biochemical changes associated with dying.
The Body After Death - HowStuffWorks

Apparently, I've not directed my question as I had hoped to. I mean to ask, how does anything come to life? How is it that anything is now alive, if nothing can come to life?
Our bodies are a complex arrangement of complex organic molecules, that are constantly undergoing chemical processes. Which of these particular components is actually our life? Each cell of the body is indeed alive. Yet, each of those cells is a complex arrangement of complex organic molecules themselves. How do you distinguish your life from the life of one of your cells? Our living cells are constantly dying, yet we remain alive. What are we?

Suppose that we were to take one of my living cells, or even all of my living cells, and form a new human being from each of those cells. If each of my cells were removed from my body, I would be dead, yet it is possible to take each of my remaining cells and produce new human beings from each of those cells. Am I not still alive? After all, if all of the cells of my body are kept alive but are used to form new bodies, though I would be dead, am I not still alive?

 

[McBell]

Apparently, I've not directed my question as I had hoped to. I mean to ask, how does anything come to life? How is it that anything is now alive, if nothing can come to life?
Our bodies are a complex arrangement of complex organic molecules, that are constantly undergoing chemical processes. Which of these particular components is actually our life? Each cell of the body is indeed alive. Yet, each of those cells is a complex arrangement of complex organic molecules themselves. How do you distinguish your life from the life of one of your cells? Our living cells are constantly dying, yet we remain alive. What are we?

Suppose that we were to take one of my living cells, or even all of my living cells, and form a new human being from each of those cells. If each of my cells were removed from my body, I would be dead, yet it is possible to take each of my remaining cells and produce new human beings from each of those cells. Am I not still alive? After all, if all of the cells of my body are kept alive but are used to form new bodies, though I would be dead, am I not still alive?

Life began a long long time ago and is a continuous ongoing process.

 

[Sonofason]

Life began a long long time ago and is a continuous ongoing process.

So it only happened once?

 

[columbus]

Apparently, I've not directed my question as I had hoped to. I mean to ask, how does anything come to life? How is it that anything is now alive, if nothing can come to life?

Nobody has ever said that nothing can come to life. "Decomposing human bodies" is much more specific and well studied. They only come to life in fiction, but in fiction it is pretty common.

Tom

 

[Sonofason]

Nobody has ever said that nothing can come to life. "Decomposing human bodies" is much more specific and well studied. They only come to life in fiction, but in fiction it is pretty common.

Tom

Indeed, no one has ever come back to life after being dead for three days, except one man, the man who Himself breathed the breath of life in to all living beings.

Edit, I'm sorry, there was another man who came back to life. His name was Lazarus. He to was given his life back by He who is the giver of life.

 

[Yes]

Yeah, that might be fun.

The people will still get for themselves idols, even after all that, even after the iconoclasts.

 

[Revoltingest]

Apparently, I've not directed my question as I had hoped to. I mean to ask, how does anything come to life? How is it that anything is now alive, if nothing can come to life?

Abiogenesis is above my pay grade.

Our bodies are a complex arrangement of complex organic molecules, that are constantly undergoing chemical processes. Which of these particular components is actually our life?

Life is a complex process, comprising all those necessary components.

Each cell of the body is indeed alive. Yet, each of those cells is a complex arrangement of complex organic molecules themselves. How do you distinguish your life from the life of one of your cells? Our living cells are constantly dying, yet we remain alive. What are we?

It's like asking which link makes a chain.....or which player makes a team. All too deep for me.

Suppose that we were to take one of my living cells, or even all of my living cells, and form a new human being from each of those cells. If each of my cells were removed from my body, I would be dead, yet it is possible to take each of my remaining cells and produce new human beings from each of those cells. Am I not still alive? After all, if all of the cells of my body are kept alive but are used to form new bodies, though I would be dead, am I not still alive?

It would seem you'd be survived by your progeny.

 

[Sonofason]

The people will still get for themselves idols, even after all that, even after the iconoclasts.

Well, we can certainly work on destroying our own idols.

 

[Sonofason]

Abiogenesis is above my pay grade.

Life is a complex process, comprising all those necessary components.

It's like asking which link makes a chain.....or which player makes a team. All too deep for me.

It would seem you'd be survived by your progeny.

Indeed, it's complex and it hurts my brain.
But still, I have not provoked the response I had hoped for. Is it not conceivably possible for medical science to one day put life back into that which is dead? What I'm getting at here is that if resurrecting the dead is possible in any conceivable way, then it is quite possible and even probably that God, if He exists, could certainly have already conceived of a method of doing it.

 

[McBell]

So it only happened once?

Hold on tight.

I am about to use those three words you theists are unable to accept:

I don't know.​

So sorry.
Hope you didn't get hurt.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Indeed, it's complex and it hurts my brain.
But still, I have not provoked the response I had hoped for. Is it not conceivably possible for medical science to one day put life back into that which is dead? What I'm getting at here is that if resurrecting the dead is possible in any conceivable way, then it is quite possible and even probably that God, if He exists, could certainly have already conceived of a method of doing it.

If you've already decided that magic is real, why do you need medical science to confirm your assumption?

 

[Revoltingest]

Indeed, it's complex and it hurts my brain.
But still, I have not provoked the response I had hoped for. Is it not conceivably possible for medical science to one day put life back into that which is dead?

From the changes a dead body would experience (see link in prior post), the Frankenstein approach wouldn't work. Irreversible processes, ya know.

What I'm getting at here is that if

resurrecting the dead is possible in any conceivable way, then it is quite possible and even probably that God, if He exists, could certainly have already conceived of a method of doing it.

Being an atheist, I'm more skeptical of resurrection than most here.

 

[McBell]

Indeed, no one has ever come back to life after being dead for three days, except one man, the man who Himself breathed the breath of life in to all living beings.

Edit, I'm sorry, there was another man who came back to life. His name was Lazarus. He to was given his life back by He who is the giver of life.

Ouch.
You should be more diligent in your Bible studies:

1 Kings 17:17-24
2 Kings 4:35
Kings 13:21
Luke 7:13-15
Matthew 9:25
John 11:43-44
Matthew 27:52-53
Matthew 28:5-7
Acts 9:36-42
Acts 20:9-12
Acts 14:19-20
​

 

[Sonofason]

Hold on tight.

I am about to use those three words you theists are unable to accept:

I don't know.​

So sorry.
Hope you didn't get hurt.

So then, it is quite possible that it is true that there have been many original life forms that have evolved separately?

Do you suppose it could be also possible that each original life forms could have had DNA commonalities? Or do you suppose it must be that if there are DNA commonalities that that would necessitate a common ancestry?

Or I wonder, if again, that you don't really know?

 

[Sonofason]

If you've already decided that magic is real, why do you need medical science to confirm your assumption?

I don't believe that there is anything magical about what God is capable of doing. When you are the author of life and being, I believe that you are fully capable of producing life and being without using any magic. There is nothing supernatural about God. He exists quite naturally. And that which He does is quite natural for Him to do.

 

[Sonofason]

From the changes a dead body would experience (see link in prior post), the Frankenstein approach wouldn't work. Irreversible processes, ya know.

Being an atheist, I'm more skeptical of resurrection than most here.

Okay, that's sounds fair enough.

 

[McBell]

So then, it is quite possible that it is true that there have been many original life forms that have evolved separately?

Do you suppose it could be also possible that each original life forms could have had DNA commonalities? Or do you suppose it must be that if there are DNA commonalities that that would necessitate a common ancestry?

Or I wonder, if again, that you don't really know?

I have no problem saying "I Don't Know" when I don't know.
Now if you think that my not knowing somehow helps support your claim, then you have bigger issues than the intellectual laziness of "GodDidIt".

 

[Sonofason]

Ouch.
You should be more diligent in your Bible studies:

1 Kings 17:17-24
2 Kings 4:35
Kings 13:21
Luke 7:13-15
Matthew 9:25
John 11:43-44
Matthew 27:52-53
Matthew 28:5-7
Acts 9:36-42
Acts 20:9-12
Acts 14:19-20
​

That's wonderful, so you know that it is possible to reestablish life after which it has been lost.

 

[McBell]

That's wonderful, so you know that it is possible to reestablish life after which it has been lost.

are you really that ignorant or are you hoping I am?