Trump Base Shows Signs of Cracking

[Revoltingest]

You should wake up and pay attention to what is happening in the White House. Trump is actively proving that he was the wrong choice.

You imagine that your small picture of the world is only one of many.
The problem is that you believe you have "The Truth".

 

[leibowde84]

Trump isn't loosing his base, it's as strong as ever. What you're looking at there is where "Republican" includes both conservatives and the Establishment. And it doesn't show Democrat and especially Independent support. His campaign and election has turned on the political blender. He's picked up a lot of private sector union support, especially those from the white working class, who the Dems openly wrote off during the last 2 elections.

If it's not the week before an election, there are very few polls I would trust, Reuters included.

Polls aside, if he keeps on making these controversies worse and worse for himself, he will lose all of his support. He won't be able to get anything done because of his massive mistakes in keeping national focus on internal white house issues. If the Republicans don't support him as their candidate, he has no chance. There is no way anyone can win as an independent ... especially not Trump.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

You imagine that your small picture of the world is only one of many.
The problem is that you believe you have "The Truth".

Here soon you'll be putting truth in quotation marks.

**Edit - That was my comment before you did your ninja edit. You are getting very predictable.

 

[Revoltingest]

Here soon you'll be putting truth in quotation marks.

**Edit - That was my comment before you did your ninja edit. You are getting very predictable.

Bless your heart.

 

[leibowde84]

I'll explain again.

Of course there is no longer a choice....the election is over.
But when there was a choice, a large element of Trump's voter pool was
people who chose him over the more objectionable alternative. To this day,
this relationship between Donald & Hillary still exists, ie, we still don't prefer her.
This "support" does not appear to be "cracking".
Thus, my claim directly addresses the OP.

Are you trying to get me kicked out of the thread, you rascal?

But, you aren't talking about support for Trump. You are talking about confidence in their decision to vote for Trump in 2016. That is a very different thing. You can still be satisfied that Trump is better than Hillary without thinking that he should be elected for a second term.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

Bless your heart.

You do realize that if I can predict what you are going to say it means I understand your argument.

 

[Revoltingest]

But, you aren't talking about support for Trump. You are talking about confidence in their decision to vote for Trump in 2016. That is a very different thing. You can still be satisfied that Trump is better than Hillary without thinking that he should be elected for a second term.

Some concepts are not possible to get across to all people.
And I'm not advocating a 2nd term.

 

[leibowde84]

Some concepts are not possible to get across to all people.
And I'm not advocating a 2nd term.

My mistake. I looked back. I thought you were talking about support for a second term. Whoops!

 

[Revoltingest]

My mistake. I looked back. I thought you were talking about support for a second term. Whoops!

Oh, good....I was worried you might've become like what's-iz-name.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

Some concepts are not possible to get across to all people.
And I'm not advocating a 2nd term.

Someone said you were advocating for a 2nd term?

 

[Jeremiahcp]

But, you aren't talking about support for Trump. You are talking about confidence in their decision to vote for Trump in 2016. That is a very different thing. You can still be satisfied that Trump is better than Hillary without thinking that he should be elected for a second term.

If you completely ignore everything that has happened from then to now. It there is difference in saying, "At the time, I thought that was the best choice" and "In hindsight, that was not the best choice."

 

[leibowde84]

If you completely ignore everything that has happened from then to now. It there is difference in saying, "At the time, I thought that was the best choice" and "In hindsight, that was not the best choice."

The difference is that Hillary is not running. I bet if the election was held today between the two, Trump would still win. Hillary was despised by too many people.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

The difference is that Hillary is not running. I bet if the election was held today between the two, Trump would still win. Hillary was despised by too many people.

That has nothing to do with my point. Have you never had a decision that at the time seemed like a good idea, but then later you are like, "Maybe that was not the best choice."

 

[ThePainefulTruth]

Polls aside, if he keeps on making these controversies worse and worse for himself, he will lose all of his support. He won't be able to get anything done because of his massive mistakes in keeping national focus on internal white house issues. If the Republicans don't support him as their candidate, he has no chance. There is no way anyone can win as an independent ... especially not Trump.

The source of 98% of the "controversies" is the media. This Russian connection is BS. It was never claimed that the Russians were helping Trump until he won the election. And the Democrats wanted Obama to fire Comey for "helping" Trump, until Trump fired him, which suddenly made him a hero. Nowhere was that plainer than when Colbert announced that Trump had fired Comey and the audience was on its feet cheering. The audience forgot that the ultimate target of their hate must always be Trump.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

The source of 98% of the "controversies" is the media. This Russian connection is BS. It was never claimed that the Russians were helping Trump until he won the election. And the Democrats wanted Obama to fire Comey for "helping" Trump, until Trump fired him, which suddenly made him a hero. Nowhere was that plainer than when Colbert announced that Trump had fired Comey and the audience was on its feet cheering. The audience forgot that the ultimate target of their hate must always be Trump.

"It was never claimed that the Russians were helping Trump until he won the election."

Were you alive during the election or did you just recently come into existence?

"And the Democrats wanted Obama to fire Comey for "helping" Trump, until Trump fired him, which suddenly made him a hero. "

You'll also notice how Obama didn't fire Comey while Comey was investigating Clinton's emails.

 

[leibowde84]

That has nothing to do with my point. Have you never had a decision that at the time seemed like a good idea, but then later you are like, "Maybe that was not the best choice."

Sure. I just feel like Trump supporters are so crazy about him that they think he can't do any wrong. I mean, just consider the fact that with all of the stuff going on now, they cling to the excuse that it is the "fake news" doing a hit job on him.

 

[Revoltingest]

Sure. I just feel like Trump supporters are so crazy about him that they think he can't do any wrong. I mean, just consider the fact that with all of the stuff going on now, they cling to the excuse that it is the "fake news" doing a hit job on him.

It seems that Hillary supporters are still so anguished & weepy eyed over her loss,
that in a fevered rush to criticize, they fail to realize that Trump voters never expected
him to find any smoother sailing than he did during the campaign. Moreover, her fans are
oblivious to her faults, & consequently believe that her presidency would've been Camelot.
It's a faith based longing for an alternative reality.

 

[ThePainefulTruth]

"And the Democrats wanted Obama to fire Comey for "helping" Trump, until Trump fired him, which suddenly made him a hero. "

You'll also notice how Obama didn't fire Comey while Comey was investigating Clinton's emails.

No, because he knew the fix was in and Comey would determine that Hillary's intentions were pure, and thus dismiss obviously indictable findings.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

No, because he knew the fix was in and Comey would determine that Hillary's intentions were pure, and thus dismiss obviously indictable findings.

How's Pluto this time of year?

 

[Jeremiahcp]

It seems that Hillary supporters are still so anguished & weepy eyed over her loss,
that in a fevered rush to criticize, they fail to realize that Trump voters never expected
him to find any smoother sailing than he did during the campaign. Moreover, her fans are
oblivious to her faults, & consequently believe that her presidency would've been Camelot.
It's a faith based longing for an alternative reality.

Talk about not being able to see both sides. . .