Trump.. The greatest president America ever had

[wellwisher]

So, the president who started an insurrection to take over the country whereas many innocent people were injured or killed trying to defend the Capitol is the greatest president ever??? I don't know whether to laugh or cry over this.

The definition of insurrection is; a violent uprising against an authority or government.

The mostly peaceful Lefty riots of the summer of 2020, was a violent uprising against police authority who represent the law. The burning and looting included police cars and police stations. That was also technically an insurrection. The people in the insurrection of the summer of 2020 were never punished, even though they burned a Church near the White House, with the White House the next target, before it became fortified.

The lack of justice in that series of connected insurrections told the Patriots that the crooks had a dual injustice system, and patriots needed to intercede or the nation could be lost. Now the crooks use the injustice department to threaten and punish political opponents and ignore their own crimes.

Why didn't the insurrection of the summer of 2020 jail any people? Are only politicians important, while the common people killed and hurt by the Democrat run insurrection, chipped beef?

The attack on the Capital seemed more spontaneous than planned. If it had been planned, they would have had fire power, since getting in the Capital was way too easy, as though Pelosi left the doors open. I saw a video where the Q'anon dude was being given a quiet tour, which made no sense based on the Lefty narrative. It appears the capital breech started out quiet and peaceful. Somewhere the word was given to make this violent. The only person killed in the riot was an unarmed woman protester. The rest was bar room brawl, and not fire bombs like the summer of 2020. Thee fire power bought to the insurrection of the summer of 2020, led to no arrests and convictions. Could anyone explain why that insurrection was treated differently, for similar actions? Hundreds verse zero arrests?

 

[Revoltingest]

Good point. Yes the racism was already there. The public outrage increased when marginalized groups were recognized as being equal to white men. Not a surprise because what argument do they have? None. But they feel angry, aren’t sure why they are angry, but know how to make themselves feel better by attacking others. Trump is their champion.

Note that "the public" isn't a unified group.
There was outrage by some, & approval by others.
Racism doesn't appear to be Trump's path to power.
Christian fundies are his biggest base.

 

[F1fan]

The definition of insurrection is; a violent uprising against an authority or government.

Yes, January 6 as led by Trump and his allies. Justice is coming.

 

[Altfish]

In what universe? Surely not this one.

It was/is, prove me wrong

 

[PureX]

Note that "the public" isn't a unified group.
There was outrage by some, & approval by others.
Racism doesn't appear to be Trump's path to power.
Christian fundies are his biggest base.

His path to power is the enormous discontent of the working class brought on by many decades of political corruption and neglect that has only served the wealthy elites. If enough of them are angry enough to pull the house down, they will vote for the lunatic that will be likely to do it. Because they see no other option.

I'm not worried about the people voting for Trump because they insanely think he'll help them. I'm more worried about the people that will vote for him because they know he will be a total disaster.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

It was/is, prove me wrong

You're the one making the claim. So go ahead and prove to me how wonderful it was/is, when you don't even live in the US and aren't living through it. I would never be so arrogant to tell someone from another country that their economy is going well when their experience and those of their their fellow countrymen is otherwise. The only people doing well are rich people playing the stock market casino. Everyone else is screwed.

 

[Altfish]

You're the one making the claim. So go ahead and prove to me how wonderful it was/is, when you don't even live in the US and aren't living through it. I would never be so arrogant to tell someone from another country that their economy is going well when their experience and those of their their fellow countrymen is otherwise. The only people doing well are rich people playing the stock market casino. Everyone else is screwed.

I'm talking about Biden and Obama, not Trumps cronyism

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I'm talking about Biden and Obama, not Trumps cronyism

What are you on about? Are you drunk? Lol.

 

[Stevicus]

Oddly a period where women’s and minority’s rights expanded, and grievances did as well. There is a correlation between expanding liberties and expanding racism and intolerance.

I was referring to the time of the Civil Rights movement, when numerous centuries-long injustices were finally starting to be addressed. I'm not sure I understand your point here. Are you saying that racism and intolerance expanded at the same time as the Civil Rights movement?

 

[Stevicus]

It indeed was.
Do you deny his changing view towards Russia?

No, I didn't deny that, but that goes down in the "so what" department.

 

[Stevicus]

Golden age?
For some, yes.
For others....
A culture of wide ranging bigotry, eg, racial, sex, religion.
Unsafe cars spewing lead & toxic fumes.
Little competition from foreign companies that lay in ruins.
Awful highly censored TV.
Homes with lead in the plumbing, asbestos all over, no
insulation, inadequate electrical systems, no AC, etc.

Nah, we're far better off today.

Way to totally miss the point.

 

[F1fan]

I was referring to the time of the Civil Rights movement, when numerous centuries-long injustices were finally starting to be addressed. I'm not sure I understand your point here. Are you saying that racism and intolerance expanded at the same time as the Civil Rights movement?

I think it’s fair to say that many white men we’re comfortable in women and blacks knowing their place in America, and as their rights were recognized by the courts and law these men got mad. Just look at where current conservatives are compared to 1980, something happened to change attitudes this dramatically. Conservatives are openly opposed to marginalized groups mire snd more, and not because these people threaten society at all. It’s just because they exist and are being recognized as having rights. Wokeism is not a credible list of complaints, it is manufactured grievances so the right has something to fight against.

 

[Stevicus]

I think it’s fair to say that many white men we’re comfortable in women and blacks knowing their place in America, and as their rights were recognized by the courts and law these men got mad. Just look at where current conservatives are compared to 1980, something happened to change attitudes this dramatically. Conservatives are openly opposed to marginalized groups mire snd more, and not because these people threaten society at all. It’s just because they exist and are being recognized as having rights. Wokeism is not a credible list of complaints, it is manufactured grievances so the right has something to fight against.

Still, I would say that it's a sign of progress of the post-WW2 era that their rights were finally being recognized, as opposed to previous eras when they were not.

 

[We Never Know]

This was only the 1st step in any potential
agreement....hardly a done deal.
Ref...

U.S.-Taliban Peace Deal: What to Know

The United States and the Taliban signed an agreement aimed at ending the eighteen-year war in Afghanistan, but many factors could still disrupt the peace process.

www.cfr.org

Besides, I don't believe for a second that
the Taliban & other groups would honor
any agreement with USA once it leaves.
The Taliban had the power to impose
whatever it wanted on the country.

Not to mention..... Trump thought 100% for sure he would win re-election, no one can argue against that.

So in reality his plan wasnt to leave it for Biden because Trump was sure he would win 2020 and take care of it after he won.

He didn't win, Biden has to finish it.

 

[We Never Know]

Yes.

Not his fault.
However, he is responsible for whom he appoints
& nominates, along with any back room deals made.

What is the relevance of these questions?

"What is the relevance of these questions?"

You are blaming Trump for as you said "stacking" the court. He did what all presidents do when a seat becomes available, they fill it with a judge of their party. Some have more seats that become open under their term than others.

 

[We Never Know]

Yes.

Not his fault.
However, he is responsible for whom he appoints
& nominates, along with any back room deals made.

What is the relevance of these questions?

If five seats become availible under Biden, do you think he would fill them?

Your "Yes" to ^^^^


Would that be Biden and the dems "stacking" the courts? Or doing their job and doing what each president does if they get the chance?

 

[fantome profane]

Not to mention..... Trump thought 100% for sure he would win re-election, no one can argue against that.

The **** they can’t.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Who overturned Roe vs. Wade? Who has been trying to ban library books, and who tried to overturn an election?

The authoritarian nanny state apparently isn't a one party endeavor anymore.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Yes, January 6 as led by Trump and his allies. Justice is coming.

Or civil war.

 

[Viker]