Trump

[averageJOE]

Nothing of what you are saying here has anything to do with my post #74. My "Trump/Cruz ticket" statement is just wishful thinking on my part. Your post is misleading and presumptuous.

So...keep wishing then. Keep doing you.

 

[FlyingTeaPot]

Well Laika, I am sorry you feel this way. I am an American and I am, at least so far, a supporter of Donald Trump. I am sick of the past seven years of the Borak Obama administrations extreme ideology and political correctness and mamby pambying around all the important issues and problems.

Okay, let's see if we can't hash this out together. First of all, let us give the minimum respect that the man deserves by typing his name correctly. It is Barack Obama.
Now that we have that minor niggle out of the way, I would like to know exactly which extreme ideology and important issues you are talking about.
Also, if you don't mind, why do you support Trump over Obama on these specific important issues?

Donald Trump is speaking and saying what at least 56% + of Americans are actually thinking.

I would like to know the source for this claim. Did you mean 56% of Republican primary voters?

America must become energy independent, our immigration system is deeply inept, hence the call for a temporary halt on some immigration, due to the threat that Islamic extremism from other countries poses until we can improve the vetting system. They hate us and are at war with us, hence ISIS.

I agree with you that America must become energy independent. I vote for geothermal, solar and wind energy alternatives. Unfortunately, the oil lobby is too powerful.
As far as immigration is concerned, Trump has proposed that ALL muslims be halted from entering America. Did you know that America has the most stringent vetting system among the developed countries for accepting Syrian refugees? Did you know each candidate is kept on the wait list for well over 2 years? Did you know that USA has only accepted 2200 refugees since 2012? Obama has committed to accept only 10000 new refugees in the coming year after the explosion of refugees fleeing Syria as a result of ISIS (which, by the way, rose out of training that Assad's government provided to Al-Qaeda to repel US ground troops in Iraq in 2005). This number is among the lowest that each country in the developed world is taking in. These refugees are fleeing from a fate that will surely result in death and maiming at the hands of the worst terror group that we have seen in recent years. I personally think that we should accept these poor people with open arms and show them exactly why America is the shining city on the hill. Does it not say on the Statue of Liberty

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

I believe that we need to have a war of ideas, not one of swords. It is a long, lonely path, but it will surely triumph over hatred, irrationality and xenophobia. Education and McDonalds is how we get 'em to come over to our side.

I am sick of hearing the lie that "climate change" is the worlds greatest threat. It is a hoax and I will not debate it. Borak Obama is a disgrace and his presidency has been a total disaster. It is his failed administration which has made the way for the rise of Donald Trump. All Hillary Clinton offers is just a continuation of the same old corrupt political system, more than likely, on steroids.

Ah, unfortunately, by saying that you will not debate it, you are closing down the door towards understanding why others believe what they believe. At least, could you show me why you think climate change is a hoax?

I agree that Hillary Clinton is an establishment candidate, and that is why I support Bernie Sanders on the left. Unfortunately, he does not get the media coverage that he deserves because the national news media is more concerned with polarizing views and bombastic personalities in favor of men of substance in their eternal search for higher ratings.

 

[Druac]

Trump represents a core demographic in America...the dumb and the greedy. He simply panders to them and they lick it up like starving kittens given a bowl of poisoned milk. Just remember...so far, he only leads in the polls...against the other Republican candidates. He loses, even against Sanders in all the other polls...and Clinton and Sanders beat them all. Not that I am excited even for those polls...we should have all learned our lessons on early poll numbers by now...but we keep eating what the mass media feeds us...like the gluttons we are.

All of that being said, Trump is a symptom of what is wrong with our country. A glowing, putrid example of the greed and narcissism that plagues us as a society. A very bright and loud warning signal we should all heed with serious concern. But hey, he sure is entertaining!

I will be voting for Sanders, what I see as the only sane and logical "choice" we have at the moment. And if faced with a "choice" between Clinton and Trump in the end...I don't really see a "choice" there.

 

[metis]

And to fit in with the above post, I saw the results of a recent poll taken of potential Trump supporters, whereas 66% of them believe Obama is a Muslim and 60% believe he was born in Kenya.

 

[Revoltingest]

And to fit in with the above post, I saw the results of a recent poll taken of potential Trump supporters, whereas 66% of them believe Obama is a Muslim and 60% believe he was born in Kenya.

You should link such things....just to keep us from getting suspicious.
A recent study by Oxferd University showed that 89.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

 

[metis]

You should link such things....just to keep us from getting suspicious.
A recent study by Oxferd University showed that 89.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

Here, although I slightly misspoke:

66% of Trump's supporters believe that Obama is a Muslim to just 12% that grant he's a Christian. 61% think Obama was not born in the United States to only 21% who accept that he was. -- http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/...bama-is-a-muslim-born-in-another-country.html

From now on I expect you to provide links to anything you might post here, including your many "equivalencies"-- but you and I know you won't.

BTW, it's "Oxford", not "Oxferd", plus I see no link to your "stat".

 

[Revoltingest]

Here, although I slightly misspoke:

66% of Trump's supporters believe that Obama is a Muslim to just 12% that grant he's a Christian. 61% think Obama was not born in the United States to only 21% who accept that he was. -- http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/...bama-is-a-muslim-born-in-another-country.html

From now on I expect you to provide links to anything you might post here, including your many "equivalencies"-- but you and I know you won't.

I already often provide links.
It serves several purposes....
- Corroboration
- Further reading
- Opportunity to argue about the source

BTW, it's "Oxford", not "Oxferd", plus I see no link to your "stat".

Oh, dear.....you really thought there's an "Oxferd University"?
I seldom link to fictional sources.....except for The Onion.

 

[metis]

I already often provide links.
It serves several purposes....
- Corroboration
- Further reading
- Opportunity to argue about the source

Oh, dear.....you really thought there's an "Oxferd University"?
I seldom link to fictional sources.....except for The Onion.

No and No, and do I also need to provide links for my "No's"?

 

[Revoltingest]

No and No, and do I also need to provide links for my "No's"?

No.
But I do....
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q...&thid=OIP.M998182f51b36381b88d97ce90b320523H0

 

[Revoltingest]

Some thoughts on providing links.......
- When posting one's personal opinions & observations, links are seldom available, so they're not expected.
- When posting the claims or results of some study, it's worthwhile to provide links. Some posters presume that the reader should the confirming search, but this is often difficult. The claimant has already done the work, & can easily copy the link into the post.
- Some well known news items need no links, eg, discussing Bill Cosby's sexual assaults.

I hope the above guidelines are helpful.

 

[Midnight Rain]

I had a dream last night that Trump was actually working for Hillary the whole time b/c he was best buds with her and her Husband back in the day so he created a character to run as the perfect republican candidate. Then when he got the nomination he would throw it for Hillary's win. Even if he didn't get the nomination he would run as an independent to cut the republican votes in half.

Then when I woke up I realized how plausible this actually is. Everyone knows that Trump is playing a character. That is what ever politician has to do to varying degrees. Much of what he has said is highly counter to what he has expressed prior to Obama's 2nd election and has been very supportive of Democrats for decades now. Especially this current democratic party built on lies and corporate money.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I had a dream last night that Trump was actually working for Hillary the whole time b/c he was best buds with her and her Husband back in the day so he created a character to run as the perfect republican candidate. Then when he got the nomination he would throw it for Hillary's win. Even if he didn't get the nomination he would run as an independent to cut the republican votes in half.

Then when I woke up I realized how plausible this actually is. Everyone knows that Trump is playing a character. That is what ever politician has to do to varying degrees. Much of what he has said is highly counter to what he has expressed prior to Obama's 2nd election and has been very supportive of Democrats for decades now. Especially this current democratic party built on lies and corporate money.

I really doubt Trump would do it for anyone but himself. For all we know, he is very well aware that he can't win and is doing as a business ploy.

 

[Midnight Rain]

I really doubt Trump would do it for anyone but himself. For all we know, he is very well aware that he can't win and is doing as a business ploy.

Exactly. Its a business ploy to get the deal of the century from Hillary. Everything anyone ever does in politics is for themselves.

 

[james dixon]

Trump is a double agent. He represents the Republican Party on the surface but his rhetoric trashes the Republican Party whenever he has a chance. He has two loves in his life, himself and trashing the Republicons; in that order

if I have posted this before forgive me

 

[averageJOE]

 

[james dixon]

the first thought that came to my mind when I saw the above was-

.,.,.,.,.,,.,,.,.,Is he about to take big bite out of what~~~~?

Cucumber perhaps--?

 

[columbus]

I have a vision for a political cartoon.
The viewer is standing near a race track, facing the starting line. Obama is off to one side, holding a starting pistol in one hand and covering a smirk with the other.
In one lane is Hillary riding a donkey. They are both focused on the track ahead.
Next to them is a screaming elephant being sodomized by Trump.

Tom

 

[Underhill]

I had a dream last night that Trump was actually working for Hillary the whole time b/c he was best buds with her and her Husband back in the day so he created a character to run as the perfect republican candidate. Then when he got the nomination he would throw it for Hillary's win. Even if he didn't get the nomination he would run as an independent to cut the republican votes in half.

Then when I woke up I realized how plausible this actually is. Everyone knows that Trump is playing a character. That is what ever politician has to do to varying degrees. Much of what he has said is highly counter to what he has expressed prior to Obama's 2nd election and has been very supportive of Democrats for decades now. Especially this current democratic party built on lies and corporate money.

Right. You realize he has run before right? I mean the notion that Trump would make multiple runs at the presidency, spending how many hundreds of millions, to help out another candidate... it's just nuts.

This is the rationale republicans use when they don't want to face how insane their party has become.

 

[Midnight Rain]

Right. You realize he has run before right? I mean the notion that Trump would make multiple runs at the presidency, spending how many hundreds of millions, to help out another candidate... it's just nuts.

This is the rationale republicans use when they don't want to face how insane their party has become.

I believe this is his first time running seriously as a party candidate. He has run before independently I think. Not a 100% sure on that though.

 

[Sultan Of Swing]

I really doubt Trump would do it for anyone but himself. For all we know, he is very well aware that he can't win and is doing as a business ploy.

I don't know, if I were him reading those poll numbers every day I'd be feeling pretty optimistic.