Try to prove to me your religion.

[Taylor Seraphim]

If you are asking us to proove our religion to you is true, then it's up to you to decide what is true/fact and what is not.

To me, my religion is true. It's a fact. It's not a belief. Everyone has their own way of viewing their religion: truth, true, fact, belief, faith, whatever.

The point is, you asked us to proove our religion is true. You will get multiple answers because we each view our religion/s differently and compare them to reality (or define them as our reality) differently. If you want to find out what religion is true, it starts with how you define what is true.

In other words, if you are doing an Algebra problem, you can't expect to get the right answer if you don't develop a formula to get the answer/s you may be looking for. If we are just shouting numbers to you and you have no forumula/objective definition, then how are you going to get the answer you are looking for?

What "formula" are you using to decide what is true and what is not based on the answers we give you?

I am asking for what X (religion) equals and am asking people to find a logical equation.

No it is not up to me to decide what is fact or not.

Truth is objective, reality is objective.

 

[columbus]

Do you have any means of proving that statement?

Which part?
That something exists? Or that I call the reason for that God? To me it's pretty self evident. Doesn't really tell you much, but deism just doesn't give answers all wrapped up in a package.
I find science a more reliable route to truth.
Tom

 

[Smart_Guy]

If you where referring to me I do not believe anything about deities at this point.

Yes, I was referring to you.

Thank you for the answer.

How do you believe life and world came to be?

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

I agree. But reality is real. Correct? If reality had a conscious it would know itself. Correct?

Yes, IF reality had a consciousness.

Now prove that it does.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

And the point is?

The bible "records" several events that are not found in any other documents where they should show.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Buddhism promotes the idea of reincarnation which has no evidence plus Buddhism is not considered to be a religion to me more than a philosophy.

I disagree. Reincarnation is part of Hinduism. Buddhism has those traits but we regard it as ongoing karma. The good things we do we receive merits for. Those merits or good karma continues until we have perfect wisdom or enlightenment just as the Buddha.

As for philosophy, I have to disagree. We have philosophy in our religion, but the way schools practice, we don't consider it academics, we consider it a religion (for common usage), Path or Way depending on the school.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Which part?
That something exists? Or that I call the reason for that God? To me it's pretty self evident. Doesn't really tell you much, but deism just doesn't give answers all wrapped up in a package.
I find science a more reliable route to truth.
Tom

Why do you think that energy came from a deity that is eternal?

 

[Deeje]

1) So you believe God is real because of a book that says that god is real and the book must be true because god is real. That is circle logic a logical fallacy and proves nothing.

It's called faith and it isn't something you can order on eBay and have it delivered. It has to be built like a wall...one solid brick at a time. Finding God has a lot to do with attitude. If you want to find Him, you have to have humility, not arrogance or pride, which he detests. A written record of his dealings with humankind has been ruined by an apostate religious system which has been deviating from the truth of the Bible for centuries. It was foretold however. Christendom pretends that it never happened.

2) Which English translation of the bible do you use?

I use many translations and also Strongs Concordance to check the validity of the translation.

3) Probably homo erectus, homo sapiens, or homo neanderthalsis though dolphins have a rudimentary one.

A rudimentary what?

If you go back into the fossil record and the writings of the evolutionary experts you will see nothing but supposition in everything they write.They have not one fact to prove that evolution is true even though they will provide a lot of material to back up their claims...have you ever really tested them out? It isn't till you really read the language they use that you see its a complete fraud.

4) So the right people get to go to heaven and the wrong burn in hell for eternity?

The Bible does not teach either of those as opposite destinations. The church made that up.
God put two choices before man..."life or death"...not "heaven or hell".

5) So if you want to create Christian unity you must take the bible literally as it says, therefore you need to believe the earth is flat for instance.

Where does it even suggest such a thing?

6) Except the prophets that spoke through the "holy spirit" right?

The holy spirit directed the writing of the ones used to record scripture...yes.

Then why do so many contradictions exist in it?

There are no contradictions, only mistakes in translation. I can show you apparent contradictions that are no such thing.

 

[savagewind]

Yes, IF reality had a consciousness.

Now prove that it does.

I think I shall wish now to be on the team of Thief. It was fun but it isn't fun anymore.
My god does not ask me to prove anything so...............que sera sera

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Yes, I was referring to you.

Thank you for the answer.

How do you believe life and world came to be?

How life came to be has not yet been proven though it more than likely was by abiogenesis.

If by this world you mean the planet Earth, it was formed from condensing gases from a chain reaction of an explosion of a nearby star.

 

[savagewind]

The bible "records" several events that are not found in any other documents where they should show.

Says you

 

[savagewind]

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

I disagree. Reincarnation is part of Hinduism. Buddhism has those traits but we regard it as ongoing karma. The good things we do we receive merits for. Those merits or good karma continues until we have perfect wisdom or enlightenment just as the Buddha.

As for philosophy, I have to disagree. We have philosophy in our religion, but the way schools practice, we don't consider it academics, we consider it a religion (for common usage), Path or Way depending on the school.

I would have to disagree with karma I have know pople who have been good but lived miserable lives until their death.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I am asking for what X (religion) equals and am asking people to find a logical equation.

No it is not up to me to decide what is fact or not.

Truth is objective, reality is objective.

I gave you my answer. I know you consider Buddhism as a philosophy; and, I see it as a religion. I don't explain mind as consciousness and I dont use metaphysical words. I am very simple. I dont even use the word science. All is natural. Religion doesn't need to be overly complicated, with deities, supernatural, and UFOs for it to be a religion and for it to be qualified for me to prove it true no matter how simple it is.

 

[Corthos]

I am looking for truth, not comfort any one can comfort themselves with lies.

?... I never said that you should, hence, why it's important that the faith (or philosophy) you take to doesn't hinder your ability to assimilate and apply worldly knowledge. No religion holds a total monopoly on what is ultimately/cosmically true. For me, I personally feel that a religion that gives you tools that you can use to better and more easily find any truth you seek is more important than just following a prescribed dogma that claims to be THE truth.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

It's called faith and it isn't something you can order on eBay and have it delivered. It has to be built like a wall...one solid brick at a time. Finding God has a lot to do with attitude. If you want to find Him, you have to have humility, not arrogance or pride, which he detests. A written record of his dealings with humankind has been ruined by an apostate religious system which has been deviating from the truth of the Bible for centuries. It was foretold however. Christendom pretends that it never happened.



I use many translations and also Strongs Concordance to check the validity of the translation.


A rudimentary what?

If you go back into the fossil record and the writings of the evolutionary experts you will see nothing but supposition in everything they write.They have not one fact to prove that evolution is true even though they will provide a lot of material to back up their claims...have you ever really tested them out? It isn't till you really read the language they use that you see its a complete fraud.



The Bible does not teach either of those as opposite destinations. The church made that up.
God put two choices before man..."life or death"...not "heaven or hell".



Where does it even suggest such a thing?



The holy spirit directed the writing of the ones used to record scripture...yes.



There are no contradictions, only mistakes in translation. I can show you apparent contradictions that are no such thing.

1) Faith is belief without evidence. You can have faith in Nesse if you want to, doesn't make it anymore true.

2) That is a blatant lie, there is independent evidence from genetics, fossil records, carbon dating, and several other sources. I would recommend that you learn more on the topic.

3) The sulfur lake in revelations, even if that is not the case, then why would god destroy souls when he could save them all.

4) What prevents someone from fakeing that?

 

[Smart_Guy]

How life came to be has not yet been proven though it more than likely was by abiogenesis.

If by this world you mean the planet Earth, it was formed from condensing gases from a chain reaction of an explosion of a nearby star.

Cool. Again, thanks for the answers.

 

[columbus]

Why do you think that energy came from a deity that is eternal?

Because it is the simplest explanation for what I perceive as being objectively real. By objectively real I mean what exists regardless of what we believe. Some things have a subjective reality, those are abstract things. But God is darned near to being one of those things.
Deism is barely distinguishable from agnostic atheism.
Tom

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I would have to disagree with karma I have know pople who have been good but lived miserable lives until their death.

Karma is not magic. It doesn't save you from death because you do good things. The Law of the Buddha is one the Law of Causation: cause and affect: life and death. The Buddha taught so we can be comfortable with both life and death.

My grandmother passed away two years ago. She had a terminal illness and I never got to speak with her. My other grandmother passed away of AIDs. I live in a building where people pass away every two to three months. All of them are Christians. I believe whatever good karma (actions) they have done help them be at peace when they die or after they die. Their karma will continue on until they reach full understanding of the nature of life just as the Buddha. It's not magic or supernatural. Our goal is to find the nature of life or live life however we can in a healthy manner whether we have a religion or not.

The goal of Buddhism is not to prevent death. It's one of many to be comfortable with death and live life by peaceful practices.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Says you

Ok since you are claiming that independent sources do verify the bible find me sources that on Calvary the dead walked like it says in the bible, surely the highly organized and literate Roman and Jewish cultures would have recorded that right?