War: the Pope says that mankind is in danger; strive for peace

[TagliatelliMonster]

according to the ToE, everything dies, and war and destruction are part of the process, so why worry or think that mankind can change itself by good thinking.

What makes you think any of us appeals to, or invokes, the theory of evolution when talking about how to organize society, how to deal with interpersonal relationships or other social aspects, how best to treat one another, etc?

Do you have any idea how strange that is?
It's a theory of biology that explains how species develop. That's it.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

What makes you think any of us appeals to, or invokes, the theory of evolution when talking about how to organize society, how to deal with interpersonal relationships or other social aspects, how best to treat one another, etc?

Do you have any idea how strange that is?
It's a theory of biology that explains how species develop. That's it.

Well, there are the 4Fs, but they don't help. Nor do the replication of the fittest genome, because that is not ongoing on only the level of a species.

 

[RestlessSoul]

I happily accept the economic pains that are the direct result of my country engaging with the rest of the world in sanctions against Russia, as well as governmental donations of military equipment. And I encourage them to continue in doing so till the bitter end.

I have also volunteered to help out with Ukrainian refugees that ended up in our region. I also played a free gig with my band at a fundraiser for those refugees, with another one coming up in a couple of weeks.

I do what I can.



I note that you didn't actually answer the question I asked.

Oh great. So at least there'll be music all the way "till the bitter end."

 

[Estro Felino]

To the Europeans who crave for world war, watch this:
Irish MEP:

 

[muhammad_isa]

To the Europeans who crave for world war, watch this:
Irish MEP:

It's alright for her .. she'll go home when things get worse.
I doubt Russia is interested in subduing Ireland.

Many Irish citizens fought against Hitler, despite Ireland's "neutral" stance.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

To the Europeans who crave for world war, watch this:
Irish MEP:

...

Yes, we debate and then we act and right now we act differently than you like. Yet you are the truth and that can't be doubted. I get your stick.

 

[Estro Felino]

It's alright for her .. she'll go home when things get worse.
I doubt Russia is interested in subduing Ireland.

Many Irish citizens fought against Hitler, despite Ireland's "neutral" stance.

Do you think war is a good idea to settle international disputes?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Do you think war is a good idea to settle international disputes?

No, but if it is there, pacifism is not always the only answer. If there was no war going on, you have a point, but there is a war going on.

 

[Estro Felino]

No, but if it is there, pacifism is not always the only answer. If there was no war going on, you have a point, but there is a war going on.

So you think that whenever an independent and sovereign country is attacked, it is right to fight back the invaders with weaponry (instead of diplomacy)?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

So you think that whenever an independent and sovereign country is attacked, it is right to fight back the invaders with weaponry (instead of diplomacy)?

No, it is neither right nor wrong. It is one way to do it. And that is in effect the truth of how the everyday world works.

 

[Estro Felino]

No, it is neither right nor wrong. It is one way to do it. And that is in effect the truth of how the everyday world works.

It's a sensible answrer.
Nevertheless, if I were an EU international diplomat, I would go to Putin with my legal team and after few days of negotiations, I am very confident I would convince him to withdraw all his troops and terminate the war.

Why will something like that never happen?
Because they do want to carry on the war. They do want the conflict to escalate.
The elites. And not the Russians.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

It's a sensible answrer.
Nevertheless, if I were an EU international diplomat, I would go to Putin with my legal team and after few days of negotiations, I am very confident I would convince him to withdraw all his troops and terminate the war.

Why will something like that never happen?
Because they do want to carry on the war. They do want the conflict to escalate.
The elites. And not the Russians.

I understand it differently.

 

[muhammad_isa]

Do you think war is a good idea to settle international disputes?

Obviously not..
Putin decided to invade Ukraine.
Is he repentant? No.

How to go forward? I don't know.
Will Putin stop his claims of parts of Ukraine being part of Russia? Probably not.

In terms of GDP on a per capita basis, Russia's GDP per capita was $10,127 USD for 2020, a little less than 3x that of Ukraine's. For comparison, the 2020 GDP per capita for the European Union and the United States were $34,129 USD and $62,978, respectively.
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/russia-vs.-ukraine:-an-economic-comparison

Ukraine seems to think that they can manage without Russia.
Russia is seen as a bully.

 

[Valjean]

according to the ToE, everything dies, and war and destruction are part of the process, so why worry or think that mankind can change itself by good thinking.

No. "Everything dies" is not part of the ToE, and "war and destruction" is politics, not biology.
I think you're confusing biology, politics and sociology.

 

[Valjean]

I didn't read that there were only 4 people on the planet at that time. You probably know that Adam & Eve had more children than Cain and Abel, right? Meantime, do you really think that mankind has been so kind to each other over the centuries?

You're still basing your political and social opinions on a mythological narrative, not on actual facts.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Oh great. So at least there'll be music all the way "till the bitter end."

And still no answer. Just a meaningless one liner.

Oh well.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

To the Europeans who crave for world war,

Who's craving for world war?

 

[Estro Felino]

Obviously not..
Putin decided to invade Ukraine.
Is he repentant? No.

How to go forward? I don't know.
Will Putin stop his claims of parts of Ukraine being part of Russia? Probably not.

In terms of GDP on a per capita basis, Russia's GDP per capita was $10,127 USD for 2020, a little less than 3x that of Ukraine's. For comparison, the 2020 GDP per capita for the European Union and the United States were $34,129 USD and $62,978, respectively.
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/russia-vs.-ukraine:-an-economic-comparison

Ukraine seems to think that they can manage without Russia.
Russia is seen as a bully.

War is a primeval instrument to settle international disputes.
It is medieval. It was considered backward even by the times of philosopher Kant who wrote an essay called Perpetual Peace.

We can dissuade the Russians from continuing the war with diplomacy.
But if we decide to use weapons and tank to attack them too...we are not better than them,.

 

[Estro Felino]

Who's craving for world war?

There are. Europeans craving for world war 3

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Do you think war is a good idea to settle international disputes?

No.

But if one country invades another unprovoked, commits one war crime after another and all that just for the purpose of stealing land, power and imperialism... what do you do?

Sit back and let it happen? And in the process, send a message to every dictator in the world that they can do whatever they wish to their neighbours and the world will just roll over and let it happen?

Do you think that is a good idea?