What Age Is Acceptable To Identify As The Opposite Sex?

[Argentbear]

define gender.

been there done that.

 

[Argentbear]

Do you agree that doctors ought to make "first, do no harm" their top priority?

what does that have to do with your claim "neutral doctors and scientists look into this question more carefully they are starting to see how the data collection approaches for "regret" are usually quite flawed, and that regret is now seen as far more common than the activists would like us to believe." ?

Back up your claims

 

[icehorse]

what does that have to do with your claim "neutral doctors and scientists look into this question more carefully they are starting to see how the data collection approaches for "regret" are usually quite flawed, and that regret is now seen as far more common than the activists would like us to believe." ?

Back up your claims

Im trying to determine the context you're coming from, because in this sort of situation I often find that whining about citations is not really in good faith...

 

[Kfox]

they still exist and are societally reinforced.

Examples?

Just try spending a week embracing the gender rolls to your biological presentation and see how much respect you get.

I spend my entire lifetime embracing the gender roles of my biological presentation; and I get respect all the time

 

[Kfox]

What some believe to be factually correct and what is factually correct are often not the same thing.

As I said before, If I mistake a woman for a man due to how she presents herself, when she corrects me, I apologize and refer to her as a woman. Now if they say they are a Xi, Zu, they/them, etc. that's different; in that case I only refer to their biology which is either male or female.

 

[Kfox]

Now just for the fun of it. Justify what you consider factually correct and not just claim it, but actually justifiy it. Can you do that or it is just make believe?

According to science, humans are mammals, and all mammals are either male or female. If you are a human male, your pronouns are he/him; not Zi, Xi, they/them, etc. etc.

 

[Kfox]

This thread strongly indicates otherwise.

Really? Name some sexist gender stereotypes people on this thread agree with.

 

[Kfox]

but you did state that if gender is based on internal perceptions there is no distinction between man vs woman. In the same way happiness and sadness are based on internal perceptions but despite that there is a distinction between them.

I said nothing about internal perceptions; I said if there is no difference between a man vs woman, the terms become meaningless.

 

[Kfox]

you disrespect schizophrenics when you call their hallucinations "imaginary friends"

What's the difference between hallucinations vs imaginary friends?

or think that they need or want anyone else to pretend to hear what they hear.

The scenario I presented was if they insisted I pretend to hear what they hear.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Did I call you a toddler?

Your crap metaphor implied it, yes.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

That's a common talking point created by the trans activists, but as neutral doctors and scientists look into this question more carefully they are starting to see how the data collection approaches for "regret" are usually quite flawed, and that regret is now seen as far more common than the activists would like us to believe.

Only according to you and your biased sources that ignore the whole picture.

 

[icehorse]

Only according to you and your biased sources that ignore the whole picture.

Like long term studies? Like transitioners who drop out of tracking programs? What do you think of the de-trans reddit forum that has 10s of thousands of members? That kind of big picture stuff?

Let me ask you a question, what would you say if you - with your own research - started to see a lot of evidence that regret is actually high? How would you react to that?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Like long term studies? Like transitioners who drop out of tracking programs? What do you think of the de-trans reddit forum that has 10s of thousands of members? That kind of big picture stuff?

Let me ask you a question, what would you say if you - with your own research - started to see a lot of evidence that regret is actually high? How would you react to that?

This has been studied for over 100 years. We have been over this.
Amd if you take Reddit as a serious representation of such a thing that is your problem. Tens of thousands seems way too high when theres about 1 - 4 million trans people in America.
What do I say of a Reddit? There's no way to to verify members are who they say they are. Some are probably real, but legit sources who have better research methodology have consistently found the rate is very low. Far lower, even, than many routine surgies that aren't really that effective or scrutinized.

 

[McBell]

Really? Name some sexist gender stereotypes people on this thread agree with.

Gender = sex

 

[McBell]

define gender

Gender includes the social, psychological, cultural and behavioral aspects of being a man, woman, or other gender identity.[1][2] Depending on the context, this may include sex-based social structures (i.e. gender roles) and gender expression.[3][4][5] Most cultures use a gender binary, in which gender is divided into two categories, and people are considered part of one or the other (girls/women and boys/men);[6][7][8] those who are outside these groups may fall under the umbrella term non-binary. A number of societies have specific genders besides "man" and "woman," such as the hijras of South Asia; these are often referred to as third genders (and fourth genders, etc.). Most scholars agree that gender is a central characteristic for social organization.[9]​

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Gender identity is the personal sense of one's own gender.[1] Gender identity can correlate with a person's assigned sex or can differ from it.​

 

[McBell]

Do you agree that doctors ought to make "first, do no harm" their top priority?

WTF does that have to do with naming the scientists and the studies they have done to support their claims?

 

[McBell]

Im trying to determine the context you're coming from, because in this sort of situation I often find that whining about citations is not really in good faith...

Or is it you know that your CASS report is not going to fly since it has been shown to be faultier than a $30 bill?

 

[Kfox]

Gender = sex

How is this sexist?

 

[The Hammer]

How is this sexist?

Because gender =\= sex

 

[Kfox]

Gender identity is the personal sense of one's own gender.[1] Gender identity can correlate with a person's assigned sex or can differ from it.​

Sex is not assigned.