Salaam Alaikum!
May Allah Almighty save me and you, amin!
Though I understand perfectly where you are coming from and I appreciate that you must TRY to understand that I am not in need of "saving". I am rather far beyond such primitive notions.
Where you have seen such responces?
Though this is not a purely Muslim error, as many Christians fall to it as well, Muslims have a strange tendency for wallowing in this pit of error. Where you ask? All you need do is look into virtually ANY thread that is frequented by Muslims and you will see this critical error time and time again. This could possibly be because of not being aware of the foibles of the English language, but I think not. The difficulty seems to be systemic as most, but not all Muslims, seem to slide into it. It almost seems to be how Muslims are trained to debate.
not due to only this reason. there are several reasons about "Quran is the word of God".
I fully realize that Summia but you would have to admit it is a pretty large reason.
if you think this reason is not an argumant then bring your own argument at the post to prove this argument false.
You do understand that this statement is in fact a logical fallacy in itself, correct. For example if I say the sky on Neptune is yellow and then invite people to "prove" me wrong, I am asking them to "defeat" my arugment. The thing is, no one can "prove" one way OR the other and so the invitation to "debate" is erroneous.
Show me any one responce from muslims here that behave as you're saying. Rather they used to support Islam, and what is Islam "The Quran and the prophetic sayings" So, why they shuld not quote from Quran as Quran is the source of Islam!
This may simply be an idiomatic problem on your part as you are not used to the subtler aspects of dialogue in English. Summia, when an individual makes a statement, that statement is THEIR point of discussion. To say that every Muslim speaks for ALL of Islam is stretching the truth as you all have varying degrees of understanding. Are you an Imam with years and years of scholarly training? Nope, I didn't think so. So, in effect, you are simply describing Islam from YOUR point of view. You simply cannot do or claim to do otherwise. But back to YOUR point, Summia, all you need do is trace out one of the hundreds of threads started by Muslims here on RF. Your "proof" will be there and I do not need to offer any other "proof", period. I wonder though, if this is the accepted norm in the Muslim community (when making points) you may not see what I mean, as you may read their statements and think they make sense. I read their statements and see holes so big I can drive a truck through.
Have you seen any muslim here that disrespect jesus?(I mean sying Jesus was a false man)
This is a very dicey point Summia. I understand that Muslims regard the Christ as being second to the Prophet [pbuh] himself and so they do NOT disrespect the Muslim understand of Christ. However, Muslims continually disrespect the vision of the Christ from the Christian's point of view. I mean, continually. I accept the Christ as being a genuine incarnation of "god" and such beings are called "avatars". Christ represents the pinnacle of the human being that we ALL can attain. If you study Bhuddism you must combine Full Enlightenment within the being of the individual to understand what I am meaning.
although, you have seen many here, those without taking care of muslims belief, they used to hurt muslims by directly saying that "Muhammad pbuh was a false person".
I am certainly guilty of that Summia, but if I explained my reasons you simply would not understand me. You would have to have had MANY very deep, personal religious experiences to even come close to understanding my reservations about the man who was called Muhammed [pbuh]. I do understand this hurts Muslims personally, but there is no simple way to put it otherwise. Just because you are moved by his every deed and word does not mean that myself (and others) are.
You make it sound as if we are like mean adults making a mockery of a child's belief in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny. I agree that would be unfair to dispell a child's innocent belief but eventually they will come to understand that their beliefs about Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny are simply "untruths" designed to tell them about humanity in a very simplistic way. I see Muslim's reliance on the deeds and words of Muhammed similarly.
You know how much muslims love to muhammad! more then their own souls.
Don't get me wrong Summia, I do understand this VERY clearly, however I see this as a VERY dangerous thing. Very dangerous. No person should EVER believe in another more than they believe in themselves as I suspect it creates a great psychological imbalance in the mind of the believer.
on the other hand, you will see no muslim here to hurt non muslims by saying "Your jesus was false", have you seen any post here?
Hehe. Again, what you say IS technically true, but you and others attack the perceptions and beliefs of Christians who believe he was the "SoG" or "Son o' God". That is THEIR PERCEPTION... so how can ANYONE authoritavely say they are wrong? Likewise, the same can be applied to Muslims and their reliance on the Prophet Muhammaed [pbuh]. However, to my viewpoint, I see one as unhelpful and the other as a source of great liberation. I'll let you decide which is which in my mind. 
The reason is simple, kafir's (non muslims) are not in favour of listening except their own possession. That created the differences between the understanding of muslims and non muslims.
Oy vey. So it is all the kafir's fault because they/we do not believe as Muslims do? I think you (and many Muslims) need a reality check.
I was shocked when i have read at my Thread, a non muslim used to say "Dont you want to win the Thread?" I was shocked,
because I was not here to win myself. then i realize the mantality of non muslims.
I do understand Summia. That is the mentality of many posters on RF, but I am certainly not one of them. I could give a rat's hindquarters if anyone agrees with me, such is my conviction. I NEVER write to win a discussion. I write to share my understanding and to learn from others. I have a very unique world view and it certainly works for me and I know many others like how I can describe that unique view that is unfettered by ANY religious dogma.
you know, a single non muslim, a single, never came forward to help me for betterment of my english rather they used to mocked at me.
And she was my sister, fullyveiled muslimah, who said "whenever you need me to express youself then i'm here to help you (although i have insulted her at the post, despite this all she said), and don't feel that you are unable to mix in the community" she made me confident. Who was she? she was muslim!
*Sighs* Um, Summia I certainly did not pick on you for your lack of understanding the sublties of the English language. I dialogue with you
so that you can PRACTISE using your English. So, in fact, I was the first one to "help" you along, though you do not realize it. Here you thought I was just being an obstinant "boob".
Though far from perfect, I have a very good grasp of sentence structure and overall presentation. I hoped that you would see how I write and try to appreciate how the words go together. Is that nothing?
That is the difference between muslims and non muslims.
They are never in support of muslims but they are always in try to knock down, to pull the legs of others, specially with the muslim.
Care to rethink this in light of what I wrote above? What you MUST understand Summia, and this is sage advice, is that when you enter a DEBATE format dialogue what exactly do you expect? Muslims use the Qur'an and Sunnah to explain THEIR points. That is AS ludicrous as Christian's using the Bible to make their silly points. When the twain meet, sparks fly. Neither can usually see past the tips of their beloved books.
I would marvel at a Muslim who could explain HOW THEY FEEL without resorting to endless quotes to backup what they are babbling on about. I actually feel that people who resort to using quotations are in effect "cheating" because they lack the ability to put things in their own words. I do not suffer from this obstacle and so I tend to look down on ANYONE who resorts to this type of discussion. I figure, I can read very well, so one does not have to beat me over the head with their interpretations of a book I am quite capable of understanding on my own. Is that hard to grasp or no?
So herez the difference between muslims' and non muslims' understanding.
It's not a very good reason. Kafir's are bad and always attacking poor Muslims even though the poor Muslims cannot describe their relationship with god adequately. If you are not getting your message across, in English we say, "Back to the drawing board". Muslims on the other hand never seem to examine their method of getting the message out and feel that if they throw enough "stuff" at the wall, eventually some of it will stick. Muslims might want to work on building a better mouse trap and then kafir's may not laugh them off quite so easily.
