nazz
Doubting Thomas
I never said anything about "false Christians". And now you are simply confusing the issue by bringing up the phrase "faith without works is dead".
So never mind.
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What gives your 'God' the right to damn? What condones burning for eternity?
- Thread starter DistinctReason
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I never said anything about "false Christians". And now you are simply confusing the issue by bringing up the phrase "faith without works is dead".
So never mind.
McBell
Unbound
Really?
So what do you call non-"true" Christians?
How is the phrase "faith without works is dead" confusing the issue?
Looks to me as though you bit off more than you can chew and are now beating a rather sloppy retreat.
Thana
Lady
What is "True" Christianity? Whats the difference between True Christianity and just plain old Christianity?
So you base your facts on what other people tell you?
Me Myself
Back to my username
Yes, we always get something out of, so what?
"Get out of my sight, for when I was nude you didnt clothe me. When I was sick you didnt care for me. When I was in prison you did not come to visit. When I was hungry you did not feed me"
Deeds are important if you value Jesus's words
I would advice valuying themmore than Paul's
Thana
Lady
Yes, we always get something out of, so what?
"Get out of my sight, for when I was nude you didnt clothe me. When I was sick you didnt care for me. When I was in prison you did not come to visit. When I was hungry you did not feed me"
Deeds are important if you value Jesus's words
Your post has nothing to do with what I said.
Yes deeds are important, I never implied that they were not.
But they do not get you into heaven.
Perhaps try reading atleast some of the thread before you reply to a post?
McBell
Unbound
You will have to ask nazz, seeing as it is he who has distinguished between "true" Christians and non-"true" Christians.
Yes.
and no.
I use as much information as I can to determine what the facts are.
and unlike so many people, I do not chisel in stone what I think to be the facts.
I will alter my thought as to what is and what is not fact based upon new information.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
If there is a force or entity that fits the moniker "god", it would a being of pure reason and pure compassion, so anything devoid of reason or compassion cannot be of god.
Also, justice is when the punishment is proportionate to the crime, and considering no human is capable of anything proportionate to eternal damnation, hell is an unjust concept and also cannot be of god.
Also, justice is when the punishment is proportionate to the crime, and considering no human is capable of anything proportionate to eternal damnation, hell is an unjust concept and also cannot be of god.
nazz
Doubting Thomas
On what basis do you make this determination? Or are you saying that is the only kind of god you would accept as "god"?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
If there is an intelligence that's infinite and omnimax, I can't imagine it being otherwise.
nazz
Doubting Thomas
That sounds like an argument from incredulity. In any event I can't imagine an intelligence that's infinite period. It looks like a logical contradiction to me. Infinity by definition cannot be encompassed.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
LOL, I have never understood why people who do not believe in God worry about what he will and will not do.
If God exists, he will not have to justify anything, he simply will do just as he pleases. How could a mortal judge a God? What difference would this judgement make?
Not much logic here, an all powerful God does not need approval to do anything and we really don't know exactly what he will or will not do until he does it.
If God exists, he will not have to justify anything, he simply will do just as he pleases. How could a mortal judge a God? What difference would this judgement make?
Not much logic here, an all powerful God does not need approval to do anything and we really don't know exactly what he will or will not do until he does it.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
No one is "worrying". We can, however, argue why we consider certain concepts to be irrational and nonsensical.
God did give us the ability to reason, after all. Don't squander that gift.
God and I are bros. :drunk:
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Thana
Lady
No one is "worrying". We can, however, argue why we consider certain concepts to be irrational and nonsensical.
God did give us the ability to reason, after all. Don't squander that gift.
God and I are bros. :drunk:
Flippancy...
How very blasé
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Thana
Lady
McBell
Unbound
I am not the least bit worried about what someone claims their god will or will not do.
I am concerned with some of the things people do in the name of their god.
lornamason
New Member
A bit of a history lesson Im 48 raised very strict irish catholic and while sitting in the pews at age 7 while the Priest reminded everybody that IF WE DO NOT CONFESS OUR SINS OUR SOUL IS CONDEMED TO HELL AND DAMNATION.... while this BS was being spouted from the PRIESTS mouth I could see the angel standing next to him and it said "he does not speak gods truth, God loves you"... to which at the age of 7 I turned to my father and said he is lying daddy God loves the angel told me.... that was 40 years ago... YES religion has changed its PR over the years, but to me anyway the truth never changes as its SET IN STONE. So for me anyway for any religious or belief system to CHANGE WITH THE TIM4S is Bull POO as the truth stands the test of time.
That is why I dont believe in religion and the waivering, changing rules and interpretation it has adopoted over many years, but a true and unwavering belif in God and everyone here needs to understand that a true belief in God does not mean they have to follow a religion.... sorry to upset anyone but its a fact.
That is why I dont believe in religion and the waivering, changing rules and interpretation it has adopoted over many years, but a true and unwavering belif in God and everyone here needs to understand that a true belief in God does not mean they have to follow a religion.... sorry to upset anyone but its a fact.
Inception
ωαяяισя
I believe that we are all responsible for our own actions, the gods created us and choose our fate as they create us but that fate is almost always changed by us. Our willpower to do good and evil are equal, Hades punishes the people that deserve, not the undeserving, it's not like in those movies where you speak to him and he's a downright lier. He is good natured just as all the gods are, I believe in over forty different gods/goddesses