Why Are So Many Cops Dumb?

[We Never Know]

I recall the IQ issue from a while ago, but recently ran across this article....

Court OKs Barring Smart People From Becoming Cops (Really)

Reader Ryan McCormick sends this amazing story from ABC News. Robert Jordan wanted to be a cop and he applied for a job as such in New London,

reason.com

Excerpted....

Jordan sued for discrimination but to no avail. Here's what a federal court ruled:

Too smart for police work, "Jordan has worked as a prison guard since he took the test."



@Wu Wei might find it fascinating that even a lowly engineer
would be rejected as too smart to be a cop. An interesting
aspect of the average 104 IQ claim is that this means that
nearly half of cops are below average (100 IQ).
So we're giving a couple hundred thousand below average
intelligence people a gun & a license to kill to civilians.
And this after training that's less than what's required
to be a mechanic, real estate agent, or cosmetologist.
Ref....

U.S. law enforcement officers 2023 | Statista

How many police officers are there in the U.S.? In 2023, there were 720,652 full-time law enforcement officers employed in the United States, an increase from 708,001 the previous year.

www.statista.com

Just for you @Revoltingest

"The Norwegian Police University College is the central educational institution for the police service in Norway. Basic training for police officers is a three-year university college education aimed at providing a broad practical and theoretical foundation.

Norway | OSCE POLIS

polis.osce.org

 

[Kfox]

New video....
Police chief illegally orders a man to leave his town or be arrested.
In this case is "dumb" about the chief's ignorance or tyranny?
The video provides legal analysis. This & other videos created
a stir in the town of Turtle Lake WI. The chief soon retired.

what gives you the impression the Chief is dumb?

 

[Kfox]

The real problem, I think, is not that applicants with a high IQ are rejected, it's that applicants with a low IQ are accepted.
A cop should at least have the ability to contemplate the repercussions of their actions.

What makes you think cops don't understand the repercussions of their actions?

 

[Kfox]

IQ Percentile Calculator - convert your IQ score to percentile

Using that you'll find that roughly 1 in 20 random people you meet are at or above 125 in IQ.

(Note the "random". People on RF are a self selected group and don't represent the population. I.e. 125 may be slightly above average here.)

My point was in reference to the general population.

 

[Revoltingest]

what gives you the impression the Chief is dumb?

Did you hear the legal analysis of this interaction?
Using a broad definition of "dumb", rather than IQ,
it's obvious to even most civilians cops it's illegal
to order someone to leave town. So either the
cop is dumb for not knowing this constitutional
liberty, or he's dumb for giving an illegal order.

 

[Kfox]

Did you hear the legal analysis of this interaction?
Using a broad definition of "dumb", rather than IQ,
it's obvious to even most civilians cops it's illegal
to order someone to leave town. So either the
cop is dumb for not knowing this constitutional
liberty, or he's dumb for giving an illegal order.

Ahh so you're using a broad definition of "dumb". What is this definition of dumb that you speak of?

 

[Revoltingest]

Ahh so you're using a broad definition of "dumb". What is this definition of dumb that you speak of?

Read the thread carefully.
You'll get a feel for how the term is applied.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The cops using the Punisher Skull is another reason they are dumb.

Cops Wearing The Punisher Skull Continues To Be Stupid

The police are proving they are some kind of freak combination of Nazi and nerd.

www.cracked.com

Marvel Takes "Punisher" Logo Misuse Seriously - Dark Horizons

The iconic skull logo of Marvel’s brutal vigilante character “The Punisher” has been co-opted by some police officers who are using the symbol to show their support for the controversial ‘Blue Lives Matter’ countermovement. In the wake of this, several comic creators have asked Marvel to fight...

www.darkhorizons.com

Punisher Lays the Beatdown on Cops Who Use His Skull Symbol

In Punisher #14, the gun-toting vigilante tears into some officers who want to take a selfie with him. "You help people. I gave that up a long time ago."

www.newsweek.com

 

[Heyo]

What makes you think cops don't understand the repercussions of their actions?

Their actions.

When I was a kid and did something stupid, my father used to ask me: "What were you thinking?". I tried to come up with some rationalization but the true answer was, I wasn't.
I recognize that when cops have to come up with excuses for their behavior. They didn't think about the repercussions. Most of them. Of course I can't really distinguish if they were aware of their "qualified immunity" and didn't care but then Hanlon's Razor helps. Never attribute to malice what can be equally explained by stupidity.
My guess is that more cops are simply stupid than malicious.

 

[Kfox]

Their actions.

When I was a kid and did something stupid, my father used to ask me: "What were you thinking?". I tried to come up with some rationalization but the true answer was, I wasn't.
I recognize that when cops have to come up with excuses for their behavior. They didn't think about the repercussions. Most of them. Of course I can't really distinguish if they were aware of their "qualified immunity" and didn't care but then Hanlon's Razor helps. Never attribute to malice what can be equally explained by stupidity.
My guess is that more cops are simply stupid than malicious.

The reason you did something bad as a kid was because you thought you would get away with it; not because you were stupid. Cops do bad things because they are bad cops not because they are stupid. Some of the most genius minds in the world do horrible things; never confuse evil with stupidity.

 

[Kfox]

Read the thread carefully.
You'll get a feel for how the term is applied.

I asked for your definition of it.

 

[Heyo]

The reason you did something bad as a kid was because you thought you would get away with it;

Nope. I simply didn't think. I didn't think it was bad and I didn't think about how to get away with it - otherwise I would have.

not because you were stupid. Cops do bad things because they are bad cops not because they are stupid. Some of the most genius minds in the world do horrible things; never confuse evil with stupidity.

Never attribute to malice what can be equally explained by stupidity.
That takes care of distinguishing malice from stupidity.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Hanlon's Razor helps. Never attribute to malice what can be equally explained by stupidity.
My guess is that more cops are simply stupid than malicious.

They're basically trained to be malicious. They are often unnecessary, mean, humiliating and even do obviously illegal, indecent and immoral things (like rideside strip and body cavity searches, planting evidence, and using any excuse to shoot amd kill).

 

[Kfox]

Never attribute to malice what can be equally explained by stupidity.
That takes care of distinguishing malice from stupidity.

Unless you're interested in the truth. Let's face it; you obviously don't know. You have no proof, only your own subjective opinions that these things are based on stupidy. Perhaps such ignorance is good enough for you, but for me I require a little more than that.

 

[Revoltingest]

Nope. I simply didn't think. I didn't think it was bad and I didn't think about how to get away with it - otherwise I would have.

Never attribute to malice what can be equally explained by stupidity.
That takes care of distinguishing malice from stupidity.

They're basically trained to be malicious. They are often unnecessary, mean, humiliating and even do obviously illegal, indecent and immoral things (like rideside strip and body cavity searches, planting evidence, and using any excuse to shoot amd kill).

"Dumb" is a broadly defined word that I purposely chose
to include not merely the low intelligence issue of the OP,
but also...
- Pig headedness.
- Refusal / inability to learn.
- Acting without thought of consequences.
- Maliciousness without caring about people they abuse.

On that last one, it's even worse when cops genuinely
care about abusing people, ie, then intend it. It's doubly
dumb because of the harm caused, & making taxpayers
pay for cops being vicious bullies.

 

[Revoltingest]

A perfect example of how dumb cops & even their
supervisor are unaware of constitutional limitations
on their authority to detain someone.
A man is recording cars in a TX parking lot to survey
the illegal absence of front license plates.
This is legal activity as explained by the lawyer.

https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.IqfPoA__tQtJPhdu38UjzwHaF5?pid=ImgDet&rs=1

 

[Revoltingest]

More examples of dumb bullying cops....

 

[Revoltingest]

Dump cops plot "loading" the guy up with
tickets because he informed his passengers
of their rights. These cops were recorded
making up bogus charges they might use
against the man. Dumb, eh.
But they weren't held accountable for this
predatory behavior.
One of the cops was later fired for a racist
social media posts. Dumb, eh.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Dump cops plot "loading" the guy up with
tickets because he informed his passengers
of their rights. These cops were recorded
making up bogus charges they might use
against the man. Dumb, eh.
But they weren't held accountable for this
predatory behavior.
One of the cops was later fired for a racist
social media posts. Dumb, eh.

A fine example of where it is appropriate to attribute malicious intent.

 

[Revoltingest]

A fine example of where it is appropriate to attribute malicious intent.

These dumb cops had judgements against them
& their city for $8,250,000. Yet the cops were
supported by their department, & even promoted.
This shows how dumb cops pervade the entire
department, & that no good cops are there.