McBell
Unbound
really?God deserves to be worshiped because He is very loving.
The same god who demands that two people who love each other are not allowed to be married?
The same god that punishes children for the sins of the parents?
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really?God deserves to be worshiped because He is very loving.
really?
The same god who demands that two people who love each other are not allowed to be married?
The same god that punishes children for the sins of the parents?
Why do gods need to be worshipped? (I apologise if this topic has already been discussed i did search for one)
And im talking about all gods, not just yours in particular so please don't get uppity?
I mean most gods are considered 'omnipotent' all powerful. That means they shouldn't need us in any way shape or form. But yet they still require worship from their followers.
So i've been pondering this and i've come up with some theories:
A. The gods are not all powerful but get their power from our worship.
B. The gods are narcissistic egotistical beings who require the ego strokes they get from worship.
Any other possibilities?
-Q
Not exactly sure what all that means, but if it's that our ancestors believed that they lived in an enchanted world controlled by powerful supernatural entities, and started praying and offering sacrifices to either appease or win favour of the gods, then I agree.The worship of gods began as a reciprocal technology with useful spirits and developed into an epidemic parasitic symbiosis within the noosphere.
Of course, I'm not going to refer to all "gods" because I only believe in One God. However, not all gods (mine especially) requires or needs worship. In Orthodox Judaism, God gave us the Torah and its 613 commandments as a BENEFIT to us. He wants to benefit us by keeping his creations close to Him (as a father - son/daughter relationship) and by fulfilling His commandments, which are really there to benefit us, not to restrict us. When we pray to Him, it's for US. When we perform His commandments, it's for US. God didn't need to create this world at all. He is omnipotent, as you mentioned, and doesn't rely on anything at all. His existence is unique in the universe and He was the First and is the Last and all else is dependent on Him. That fact that we're all breathing now is because He wills it so. Every single breath and heartbeat is a reminder of this love; if He didn't love you, you wouldn't exist. The ultimate purpose of our creation and existence is because God wants to reward us with the ultimate pleasure imaginable in the Afterlife; but God wants us to reap the fruits of our labor (most will agree that the reward is greater, in almost every area of life, if we work for it). God knows this too. Therefore, He bids us to do His Will (which is the ultimate Truth and reality) and thereby reap the benefits of our efforts in the World to Come.
Not exactly sure what all that means, but if it's that our ancestors believed that they lived in an enchanted world controlled by powerful supernatural entities, and started praying and offering sacrifices to either appease or win favour of the gods, then I agree.
Our ancestors saw there's a very delicate, intricate and well designed world so they found that this great well-ordered design must have a creator that should be respected.
How is that? Marry whom you love andreally?
The same god who demands that two people who love each other are not allowed to be married?
The same god that punishes children for the sins of the parents?
are you going to marry the person you love?love anyone from the sam sex but don't have sex with him.
God is not in need of us but we are in need of Him and He likes to hear our voices calling for His help. That's what the Qura'n says.
Our ancestors conjured up an array of gods and goddesses to explain the world and everything acting in the world that was a mystery to them. There is a saying that:"nature abhors a vacuum," and the same can be said for unanswered questions. Psychologists have long noted that our natural predisposition is towards teleology...fancy word for just making things up when we don't have fact-based answers. Anyone who has, or has had young children, is aware of how they will just make up their own answers if none are given to them. I came across this blog post o from research psychologist - Bruce M. Hood a couple of years ago: Why Are Rocks Pointy? which makes note of this capacity for children to make up their own answers, as an introduction to a research paper on "Promiscuous Teleology". On the subject of "why are rocks pointy?" Prof. Hood notes:Our ancestors saw there's a very delicate, intricate and well designed world so they found that this great well-ordered design must have a creator that should be respected.
It's so simple, there must be a God for life to be in that complex and extremely well-ordered way.
God doesn't "need" to be worshipped.
Also relevant to your guys' discussion, I think "what does worship mean?" is also very important to discuss, to see if he "needs" it or not.