Why do many Muslims believe that God wants them to injure, kill, or imprison homosexuals?

[darkendless]

no one is hating through religion it's not about that.

here is a better reason for a non-muslim like yourself who does not believe in Allah and islamic teachings:

AIDS
SEXUAL TRANSMITION:
Sexual transmission occurs with the contact between sexual secretions of one person with the rectal, genital or oral mucous membranes of another. Unprotected sexual acts are riskier for the receptive partner than for the insertive partner, and the risk for transmitting HIV through unprotected anal intercourse is greater than the risk from vaginal intercourse or oral sex.

AIDS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yes but anal is not the only way to contract. Heterosexual people also commit anal sex. Your point is unconvincing.

 

[Caladan]

Yes but anal is not the only way to contract. Heterosexual people also commit anal sex. Your point is unconvincing.

Please don't tear down the child's innocence. :cover:

 

[Gharib]

Please don't tear down the child's innocence. :cover:

something wrong Mr Grown Up?

 

[Gharib]

Yes but anal is not the only way to contract. Heterosexual people also commit anal sex. Your point is unconvincing.

yes unfortunately they do, thus islam forbids anal sex. now if i say this is the reason why Allah forbade it, i would be lying because i don't know and you would probably call it a desperate attemt to justify the prohibition. so i won't say that but instead you can read the islamic ruling on anal sex if you want to:

Islamic Ruling on Anal Sex - IslamonLine.net - Ask The Scholar

 

[berrychrisc]

so i need a leash. just like homosexuals do.

Everyone has a right to express their sexuality in their own way, as long as it doesn't harm anyone else. You have a right to accept your "leash" and submit yourself blindly to the dictates of your religion if that's the way you want to live, but you do not have a right to impose a "leash" on anyone else.

 

[Autodidact]

where did i say that homosexuality is equal to killing children?

You seem to have thought it was relevant to our conversation:

if i suddenly say it is ok to kill my children because animals do it, there there is something wrong with me. so i need a leash. just like homosexuals do.

 

[Autodidact]

Anyone can play with statistics. You can pick and choose all you want and collect garbage from the internet. As not4me has said ...

The source is a reputable one--like all my sources.

Who cares!!!

Yeah, who cares about a few dead faggots? They're sinners anyway.

Indeed! It's better to let her rant!

Unless you can refute anything I'm saying?

What if God himself want us to punish people who do some sins?

If you believe that to be the case, then all freedom-loving people must combat your beliefs. We cannot tolerate intolerance.

 

[Autodidact]

sorry i must have missed it, i came to the thread earlier but only looked at the lat page.

homosexuality, like adultery is a sin. in adultery the 2 people agree to have intercourse but Allah has condemned it because it is harmful to ones self as well as ones patner if married if not then lets not go into the details and say it is only harmful to ones self. considering the islamic viewpoint that Allah knows whats best for us.

after considering all that, islamically speaking a person is not allowed to harm ones self and this includes punishing ones self physically for a sin he/she has commited.
the body is given to us by Allah, if we harmed it we will be braught onto account for it.

Dr Ahmad Omar Hashim​

Under Islam good things are allowable while bad things are forbidden. Islam calls on its followers to remain strong and not to allow their strength to be weakened by smoking and other harmful habits which pose a menace to the health and the mind and induce a state of stupor and addiction.
http://www.emro.who.int/Publications/HealthEdReligion/Smoking/FT_AhmadOmarHashim.htm

now wether you are hurting yourself or someone else, it is the same, thus one must be punished. homosexuality and adultery are highly condemned and one must refrain from commiting either of them. you could say since they are punishable with death, it is like forcefully raping someone (i'm not saying homosexuality and adultery are equal to rape, nor do islamic teachings, i'm just saying that since they are punishable with death the it is like forcefully making your body, which belongs to Allah, engage in those actions.)

it is not so much as what is a sin only to Allah. for example you and i see rape as a big crime and i'm sure you agree that every rapist should be killed. but the rapist doesn't see it as a crime therefore he rapes.

that is the reason for the laws of Allah, we don't judge based on what we personally think and feel, we judge by the laws based on the one who knows what is best and the laws are the same and don't change with time as our oppinions and worldly views do. i'm sure you know about the ozzie that was hanged some 50 years ago, today the hanging law doesn't exist because people are subjet to error and with time they change their views thinking that it is a wrong law to be implemented.

if you think that we should be leaving alone people that do harm to 'somebody' (including one' self) then we shouldn't be punishing anyone at all. harming yourself is just like harming somone else (islamically speaking). certainly you don't agree that i have a right to harm my children and not get punished because they are mine but i i harm someone elses children i should be punished because they are not mine.

What on earth makes you think you have the right to push your primitive religious taboos onto the rest of us? I mean, believe what you want; that's your business--until you impose it on me. Then you make it my business.

 

[Autodidact]

no one is hating through religion it's not about that.

here is a better reason for a non-muslim like yourself who does not believe in Allah and islamic teachings:

AIDS
SEXUAL TRANSMITION:
Sexual transmission occurs with the contact between sexual secretions of one person with the rectal, genital or oral mucous membranes of another. Unprotected sexual acts are riskier for the receptive partner than for the insertive partner, and the risk for transmitting HIV through unprotected anal intercourse is greater than the risk from vaginal intercourse or oral sex.

AIDS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yes, that's why lesbians have the lowest transmission rates for STDs of any group. Did you have a point?

 

[Gharib]

What on earth makes you think you have the right to push your primitive religious taboos onto the rest of us? I mean, believe what you want; that's your business--until you impose it on me. Then you make it my business.

nice post.

 

[Gharib]

Yes, that's why lesbians have the lowest transmission rates for STDs of any group. Did you have a point?

right, lets all go lesbian.

 

[Gharib]

Everyone has a right to express their sexuality in their own way, as long as it doesn't harm anyone else. You have a right to accept your "leash" and submit yourself blindly to the dictates of your religion if that's the way you want to live, but you do not have a right to impose a "leash" on anyone else.

so you and those people who agree that "Everyone has a right to express their sexuality in their own way" are ok with bestiality then?

 

[Autodidact]

nice post.

Thank you.

 

[Autodidact]

right, lets all go lesbian.

It's a very positive way of life that more women should consider. It has many advantages, health and safety being only one.

 

[TashaN]

The source is a reputable one--like all my sources.

Yeah, who cares about a few dead *******? They're sinners anyway.
Unless you can refute anything I'm saying?

Please don't let me laugh. You came up with some statistics and you expect me to accept them blindly? Any retarded can make his own statistics these days. It depend on the questions being asked. They might ask loaded questions, they might choose specific people who have certain beliefs, etc.

By the way, did you say *******?

A ****** is a kind of meatball. ******* are a traditional dish in the UK,[1][2] especially the Midlands of England.[3][4][5] It is made from meat off-cuts and offal, especially pork.[3] A ****** is traditionally made from pig's heart, liver and fatty belly meat or bacon minced together, with herbs added for flavouring and sometimes breadcrumbs. The mixture is shaped in the hand into balls, wrapped round with caul fat (the omentum membrane from the pig's abdomen), and baked. A similar dish, almôndega, is traditional in Portugal. Another variation of ****** is Pig's fry wrapped in pig's caul: the pig's fry and boiled onions are minced (ground) together then mixed with breadcrumbs or cold boiled potatoes, seasoned with sage, mixed herbs and pepper, all beaten together and then wrapped in small pieces of caul to form a ball. These are then baked in the oven and are usually served cold. This is from British Cookery edited by Lizzie Boyd.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/******_(food)

Dead food?

If you believe that to be the case, then all freedom-loving people must combat your beliefs. We cannot tolerate intolerance.

lol, freedom-loving people? I'm all for freedom but who define freedom? You? the US?

 

[Autodidact]

Please don't let me laugh. You came up with some statistics and you expect me to accept them blindly? Any retarded can make his own statistics these days. It depend on the questions being asked. They might ask loaded questions, they might choose specific people who have certain beliefs, etc.

So you want to attack the methodology of the Pew Research Center on Science and Religion?

By the way, did you say *******?

I sued a derogatory term to refer to male homosexuals. Apparently some people don't think they're important enough to care about.

lol, freedom-loving people? I'm all for freedom but who define freedom? You? the US?

How would you define "freedom?" I define it as the right to make decisions about my own life, as long as I'm not infringing on other's right to do the same with theirs.

 

[Agnostic75]

So you and those people who agree that "Everyone has a right to express their sexuality in their own way"? Are ok with bestiality then?

Better stated, why shouldn't homosexuals be allowed to have sex? What harm does it do? What options do they have?

Homosexuality is practiced by at least 1500 species of animals and birds. Why do you think that millions of animals and birds practice homosexuality? Some animals prefer homosexual behavior even when heterosexual behavior is available.

 

[TashaN]

So you want to attack the methodology of the Pew Research Center on Science and Religion?

I'm highly skeptical when it comes to statistics because i have seen numerous times how it been carried out, especially when it comes to Muslim and what they believe in. I need to see the questions being asked and the methodology being used before accepting any flying figures.

I sued a derogatory term to refer to male homosexuals. Apparently some people don't think they're important enough to care about.

Homosexual people are as human as me, but when it comes to Islam, people don't understand that homosexuality relations are not forbidden alone for being a homosexual act, it's just another illegal practice along with fornication, adultery, etc. Any relation that occur outside the realm of marriage is not allowed whether it was a homosexual or heterosexual one. I would have supported gay rights if the law allowed heterosexuals to do fornication for instance, like the US.

How would you define "freedom?" I define it as the right to make decisions about my own life, as long as I'm not infringing on other's right to do the same with theirs.

I see. Do you think you have the right to harm yourself? it's your life right? do you have the right to do so?

 

[Rainbow Mage]

See I always have to wonder, when I see some Muslims saying punish homosexuals, punish fornicators, adulterers, etc. Do they mean be the bedroom police or only punish for open sexual acts? Because I can tell you as a former Shi'ite that the only time the Koran permits punishment for any sexual act, sin or not, is done in public with four witnesses. Muslims are not to be the bedroom police and try to control what goes on in private out of public society.

 

[JMorris]

the muslim members here on RF are some of the most two faced people i have ever met. in one instance (terrorism) you say that the killing of innocents is bad. in another instance (homosexuality & sorcery) you say the killing of innocents is perfectly ok. you do more to discredit your religion than the great satan that is the western media could ever hope to do. ive come to realize that when most muslims say that islam is a religion of peace, that this peace comes only from violence, death, and repression. keep up the good work, maybe you'll someday succeed in killing every sinner on earth. then the true islamic peace can come to this world.