Rainbow Mage
Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
To the guy above me, Islam seriously isn't supposed to be like that, it's just been hijacked by conservative nuts, extremists, and political leaders. It seriously isn't a bad religion.
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It's kind of hard to support a statistical claim without statistics. I use the best sources I can find.I'm highly skeptical when it comes to statistics because i have seen numerous times how it been carried out, especially when it comes to Muslim and what they believe in. I need to see the questions being asked and the methodology being used before accepting any flying figures.
And Muslim people don't understand that we don't care why you think it's "forbidden," any more than we care why Jews don't eat oysters. That's your business. Just don't do it, and leave the rest of us to live our lives in peace.Homosexual people are as human as me, but when it comes to Islam, people don't understand that homosexuality relations are not forbidden alone for being a homosexual act, it's just another illegal practice along with fornication, adultery, etc. Any relation that occur outside the realm of marriage is not allowed whether it was a homosexual or heterosexual one. I would have supported gay rights if the law allowed heterosexuals to do fornication for instance, like the US.
It's my right, if I ever wanted to. I can't imagine why I would, but if I did, it would be my right.I see. Do you think you have the right to harm yourself? it's your life right? do you have the right to do so?
In theory. In practice it can be pretty bad.To the guy above me, Islam seriously isn't supposed to be like that, it's just been hijacked by conservative nuts, extremists, and political leaders. It seriously isn't a bad religion.
I see. Do you think you have the right to harm yourself? it's your life right? do you have the right to do so?
I'm sure you'd like to enjoy the freedom to practice your religion, despite whatever I may think of it, no? Please grant me the same freedom not to. If you cannot do this, then, as I have said many times, we cannot tolerate a religion of intolerance.
See I always have to wonder, when I see some Muslims saying punish homosexuals, punish fornicators, adulterers, etc. Do they mean be the bedroom police or only punish for open sexual acts? Because I can tell you as a former Shi'ite that the only time the Koran permits punishment for any sexual act, sin or not, is done in public with four witnesses. Muslims are not to be the bedroom police and try to control what goes on in private out of public society.
the muslim members here on RF are some of the most two faced people i have ever met. in one instance (terrorism) you say that the killing of innocents is bad. in another instance (homosexuality & sorcery) you say the killing of innocents is perfectly ok. you do more to discredit your religion than the great satan that is the western media could ever hope to do. ive come to realize that when most muslims say that islam is a religion of peace, that this peace comes only from violence, death, and repression. keep up the good work, maybe you'll someday succeed in killing every sinner on earth. then the true islamic peace can come to this world.
It's kind of hard to support a statistical claim without statistics. I use the best sources I can find.
And Muslim people don't understand that we don't care why you think it's "forbidden," any more than we care why Jews don't eat oysters. That's your business. Just don't do it, and leave the rest of us to live our lives in peace.
It's my right, if I ever wanted to. I can't imagine why I would, but if I did, it would be my right.
I'm sure you'd like to enjoy the freedom to practice your religion, despite whatever I may think of it, no? Please grant me the same freedom not to. If you cannot do this, then, as I have said many times, we cannot tolerate a religion of intolerance.
Go for it. Feel free. The source is a highly respected, nuetral organization.I don't just look up the source, but i also look for the methods in collecting the data, who are the people who answered the questions and from which background, how many persons been questioned, and what type of questions been asked, etc.
Dr. Muzammil Siddiqi of the ISNA said: "Homosexuality is a moral disorder. It is a moral disease, a sin and corruption... No person is born homosexual, just like no one is born a thief, a liar or murderer. People acquire these evil habits due to a lack of proper guidance and education."Hmmm, i noticed that you live in the US, so don't worry, the Muslims in the US won't tell you to stop being a homosexual.
Isn't it up to me to decide whether I'm harming myself? Because, you know, I think your religion harms you, but it's not up to me, is it?Sorry, but i thought that it is something obvious that people will be stopped and even treated if they were trying to harm themselves.
I don't know why crazy Muslims find it important to stop innocent gay people from living their lives. I'm waiting for you to explain it.I don't live in the US, and even if i live there, why would i stop you from being a homosexual? who am i to stop you or decide what you can do and what you can't? Only US authorities can do so, no?
Look, Muslims, I think your religion is really wrong, a myth, just plain dumb, completely delusional...and I absolutely defend your right to practice it. Get out your rug and bow down to a deity I think is utterly imaginary five times a day. Buy your lamb at a special butcher. Wear yourselves out...as long as you can grant me and everyone else the same freedom.
So-called Muslim countries are actually corrupt political systems misusing Islam to oppress the masses.
I didn't say evil. I said many of them misuse Islam to oppress the masses. Islam has become a political tool of control to their governments, just like Christianity was in mideval Europe.
so you and those people who agree that "Everyone has a right to express their sexuality in their own way" are ok with bestiality then?