Clizby Wampuscat
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I went with other, they exist because people are convinced they are true.
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Why Does Religion Exist
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IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
How does that contradict anything I said?
And what understanding is that?
The dictionary is the objective standard for what words in the English language mean.
From Oxford:
a·the·ist
/ˈāTHēəst/
noun
a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
From Merriam Webster:
atheist
noun
athe·ist ˈā-thē-ist
: a person who does not believe in the existence of a god or any gods : one who subscribes to or advocates atheism
From Dictonary.com
atheist
[ ey-thee-ist ]
noun
a person who does not believe in the existence of a supreme being or beings.
b person who believes that there is no supreme being or beings.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Yeah, a dictorary denotes common usage. It doesn't state an obejctive fact.
Here is another understanding as per definitons given. Now plase understand it is not written by me. I just copy/paste and give the link. Notice the first word:
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Definitions
Atheism is the comprehensive world view of persons who are free from theism and have freed themselves of supernatural beliefs altogether. It is predicated on ancient Greek Materialism.
Atheism involves the mental attitude that unreservedly accepts the supremacy of reason and aims at establishing a life-style and ethical outlook verifiable by experience and the scientific method, independent of all arbitrary assumptions of authority and creeds.
Materialism declares that the cosmos is devoid of immanent conscious purpose; that it is governed by its own inherent, immutable, and impersonal laws; that there is no supernatural interference in human life; that humankind, finding the resources within themselves, can and must create their own destiny. It teaches that we must prize our life on earth and strive always to improve it. It holds that human beings are capable of creating a social system based on reason and justice. Materialism’s ‘faith’ is in humankind and their ability to transform the world culture by their own efforts. This is a commitment that is, in its very essence, life-asserting. It considers the struggle for progress as a moral obligation that is impossible without noble ideas that inspire us to bold, creative works. Materialism holds that our potential for good and more fulfilling cultural development is, for all practical purposes, unlimited."
Our Vision
We envision a world in which policies are made using the best evidence we have rather than using religious dogma.
www.atheists.org
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I would say that religions are profound truth that if understood leads one to a correct understanding of reality/the universe, but I do not think that applies to all the so-called religions, only to true religions. I believe that true religions are established by God through the Messengers of God who bring a revelation from God. I believe that all of true religions fulfill a particular purpose and once they have fulfilled that purpose they will be renewed by God, which entails God sending a new Messenger who establishes a new religion which is suitable for the age in which that religion is revealed.
“And now concerning thy question regarding the nature of religion. Know thou that they who are truly wise have likened the world unto the human temple. As the body of man needeth a garment to clothe it, so the body of mankind must needs be adorned with the mantle of justice and wisdom. Its robe is the Revelation vouchsafed unto it by God. Whenever this robe hath fulfilled its purpose, the Almighty will assuredly renew it. For every age requireth a fresh measure of the light of God. Every Divine Revelation hath been sent down in a manner that befitted the circumstances of the age in which it hath appeared.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 81
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Of course it does. The objective fact it is stating is how the word is used, meaning its definition.
And you CHERRY PICKED from your atheists.org website. If you look at what YOUR OWN WEBSITE states atheism is, here it is:
Atheism is one thing: A lack of belief in gods.
Atheism is not an affirmative belief that there is no god nor does it answer any other question about what a person believes. It is simply a rejection of the assertion that there are gods. Atheism is too often defined incorrectly as a belief system. To be clear: Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Yeah, they say 2 things on 2 different pages. BTW it is not my kind of atheism. I have another understanding than them and it is not my website.
So the word objective, what does that mean? Are there several defintions and how does it compare to subjective? You do the work and explain objective and how words work for meaning. Can a word for its actual meaning be objective as to the meaning?
In broader sense, what is a sub-culture and can sub-culture have different meanings of word, that are not registered?
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Why Does Religion Exist
Don't worry about the philosophical terminology of "objective " word and or "subjective " word, these only indicate the confusion of their wrong concepts, as their concepts are not " natural" , right, please?
Regards
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Why Does Religion Exist
The truthful Religion is to end the superstitious thoughts of either believing in many god, or altogether denying G-d, without compulsion, and with strong reasons, easy to understand, right?
The truthful Religion rather frees the human being from wrong controls, right?
Yes the truthful Religion to convey valuable life lessons regarding articles of faith, right?
And yes it, the truthful Religion, makes one steadfast on the profound truth of "One G-d", right?
Wisdom demands that our friends in humanity are not to worry about the philosophical terminology of "objective " and or "subjective " , these only indicate the confusion of those who coined these terms and or wrong concepts, as these concepts are not " natural" , right, please?
It is good to educate the children instead of leaving them blank and untrained, please, right?
I don't say that the bad effects of Indoctrinations, if any, are not to be cared against, right?
It is good to educate the children instead of leaving them blank in the wild to suffer, right?
Even Science says that Religion is good for one's health and peace of mind that is another positive reason
" Thus, there is ample reason to believe that faith in a higher power is associated with health, and in a positive way. For example, researchers at the Mayo Clinic concluded, “Most studies have shown that religious involvement and spirituality are associated with better health outcomes, including greater longevity, coping skills, and health-related quality of life (even during terminal illness) and less anxiety, depression, and suicide. Several studies have shown that addressing the spiritual needs of the patient may enhance recovery from illness."
Right?
Regards
_________________
www.forbes.com
The truthful Religion is to end the superstitious thoughts of either believing in many god, or altogether denying G-d, without compulsion, and with strong reasons, easy to understand, right?
The truthful Religion rather frees the human being from wrong controls, right?
Yes the truthful Religion to convey valuable life lessons regarding articles of faith, right?
And yes it, the truthful Religion, makes one steadfast on the profound truth of "One G-d", right?
Wisdom demands that our friends in humanity are not to worry about the philosophical terminology of "objective " and or "subjective " , these only indicate the confusion of those who coined these terms and or wrong concepts, as these concepts are not " natural" , right, please?
It is good to educate the children instead of leaving them blank and untrained, please, right?
I don't say that the bad effects of Indoctrinations, if any, are not to be cared against, right?
It is good to educate the children instead of leaving them blank in the wild to suffer, right?
Even Science says that Religion is good for one's health and peace of mind that is another positive reason
" Thus, there is ample reason to believe that faith in a higher power is associated with health, and in a positive way. For example, researchers at the Mayo Clinic concluded, “Most studies have shown that religious involvement and spirituality are associated with better health outcomes, including greater longevity, coping skills, and health-related quality of life (even during terminal illness) and less anxiety, depression, and suicide. Several studies have shown that addressing the spiritual needs of the patient may enhance recovery from illness."
Right?
Regards
_________________
Science Says: Religion Is Good For Your Health
Theologists, scientists and thought leaders have attempted for centuries to understand the impact that religion can have on human beings; both mentally and physically. And, there is ample reason to believe that faith in a higher power is associated with health, and in a positive way.
www.forbes.com
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IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Everyone thinks their own religion is truthful and other religions are lies. A Hindu polytheist would say that truthful religion ends the superstitious belief in only one God, denying the Hindu gods, etc.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Why Does Religion Exist
The truthful Religion is to end the superstitious thoughts of either believing in many god, or altogether denying G-d, without compulsion, and with strong reasons, easy to understand, right?
The truthful Religion rather frees the human being from wrong controls.
Yes, the truthful Religion conveys valuable life lessons regarding articles of faith.
And yes it, the truthful Religion, makes one steadfast on the profound truth of "One G-d", right?
Wisdom demands that our friends in humanity do not worry about the philosophical terminology of "objective " and or "subjective " , these only indicate the confusion of those who coined these terms and or wrong concepts, as these concepts are not " natural" , right, please?
It is good to educate the children instead of leaving them blank and untrained, please.
I don't say that the bad effects of Indoctrinations, if any, are not to be cared against.
It is good to educate the children instead of leaving them blank in the wild to suffer:-
6:141
Losers indeed are they who kill their children foolishly for lack of knowledge, and make unlawful what Allah has provided for them, forging a lie against Allah. They have indeed gone astray and are not rightly guided.
قَدۡ خَسِرَ الَّذِیۡنَ قَتَلُوۡۤا اَوۡلَادَہُمۡ سَفَہًۢا بِغَیۡرِ عِلۡمٍ وَّحَرَّمُوۡا مَا رَزَقَہُمُ اللّٰہُ افۡتِرَآءً عَلَی اللّٰہِ ؕ قَدۡ ضَلُّوۡا وَمَا کَانُوۡا مُہۡتَدِیۡنَ ﴿۱۴۱
Even Science says that Religion is good for one's health and peace of mind that is another positive reason
" Thus, there is ample reason to believe that faith in a higher power is associated with health, and in a positive way. For example, researchers at the Mayo Clinic concluded, “Most studies have shown that religious involvement and spirituality are associated with better health outcomes, including greater longevity, coping skills, and health-related quality of life (even during terminal illness) and less anxiety, depression, and suicide. Several studies have shown that addressing the spiritual needs of the patient may enhance recovery from illness."
Right?
Regards
_________________
Science Says: Religion Is Good For Your Health
Theologists, scientists and thought leaders have attempted for centuries to understand the impact that religion can have on human beings; both mentally and physically. And, there is ample reason to believe that faith in a higher power is associated with health, and in a positive way.
www.forbes.com
The truthful Religion is to end the superstitious thoughts of either believing in many god, or altogether denying G-d, without compulsion, and with strong reasons, easy to understand, right?
The truthful Religion rather frees the human being from wrong controls.
Yes, the truthful Religion conveys valuable life lessons regarding articles of faith.
And yes it, the truthful Religion, makes one steadfast on the profound truth of "One G-d", right?
Wisdom demands that our friends in humanity do not worry about the philosophical terminology of "objective " and or "subjective " , these only indicate the confusion of those who coined these terms and or wrong concepts, as these concepts are not " natural" , right, please?
It is good to educate the children instead of leaving them blank and untrained, please.
I don't say that the bad effects of Indoctrinations, if any, are not to be cared against.
It is good to educate the children instead of leaving them blank in the wild to suffer:-
6:141
Losers indeed are they who kill their children foolishly for lack of knowledge, and make unlawful what Allah has provided for them, forging a lie against Allah. They have indeed gone astray and are not rightly guided.
قَدۡ خَسِرَ الَّذِیۡنَ قَتَلُوۡۤا اَوۡلَادَہُمۡ سَفَہًۢا بِغَیۡرِ عِلۡمٍ وَّحَرَّمُوۡا مَا رَزَقَہُمُ اللّٰہُ افۡتِرَآءً عَلَی اللّٰہِ ؕ قَدۡ ضَلُّوۡا وَمَا کَانُوۡا مُہۡتَدِیۡنَ ﴿۱۴۱
Even Science says that Religion is good for one's health and peace of mind that is another positive reason
" Thus, there is ample reason to believe that faith in a higher power is associated with health, and in a positive way. For example, researchers at the Mayo Clinic concluded, “Most studies have shown that religious involvement and spirituality are associated with better health outcomes, including greater longevity, coping skills, and health-related quality of life (even during terminal illness) and less anxiety, depression, and suicide. Several studies have shown that addressing the spiritual needs of the patient may enhance recovery from illness."
Right?
Regards
_________________
Science Says: Religion Is Good For Your Health
Theologists, scientists and thought leaders have attempted for centuries to understand the impact that religion can have on human beings; both mentally and physically. And, there is ample reason to believe that faith in a higher power is associated with health, and in a positive way.
YellowFeather
Member
When you hang around multiple people that truly believe in God and follow his word you will be happy and live a better life. When you hang around people that want to hate, kill, and hurt others then you will live your life in saddness and you will be angry all the time.
And when you hang around people who don't believe gods, don't hate, kill and hurt others then you will have a normal life worth living
YellowFeather
Member
There is only one GOD to believe in and have Faith in that is Jehovah. Those who do not know Jehovah God are lost in this world of hate and only know hate and how to hurt others with their words and behavior.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I beg to differ with you. I know lots of atheists from this forum and other forums who are righteous, and they don't hate or hurt others in any way.
Some of those atheists who come to mind are @ChristineM and @Nimos but there are plenty of others.
I know no atheists who hate or hurt others but I know some believers who do.
YellowFeather
Member
Atheists means not believing in GOD. So it does not matter how righteous they are to the world, if they do not believe in God then God does not know them. God only knows the true Believer that lives in Faith. The unbeliever will not see the kingdom of God.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
God knows everyone and loves everyone, whether they are an atheist or a believer.
"How ignorant therefore the thought that God who created man, educated and nurtured him, surrounded him with all blessings, made the sun and all phenomenal existence for his benefit, bestowed upon him tenderness and kindness, and then did not love him. This is palpable ignorance, for no matter to what religion a man belongs even though he be an atheist or materialist nevertheless God nurtures him, bestows His kindness and sheds upon him His light."
('Abdu'l-Baha, Star of the West, Vol. 8, issue 7, p. 78)
Matthew 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
In your opinion
Trust me, i am not lost just because i don't have a god on my shoulder telling me what to do. I do not hate, the one who seems to be hating is you, you hate people who do not bow down to your god belief, seems pretty hypocritical to me, but typical.
And that's a bad thing?
Balthazzar
N. Germanic Descent
It was developed over many, many years by humans in effort to understand life and our place in it. It evolved into a communal type of institution and system of law through which human conduct was better aimed for civilization and greater peaceful relations between people, which led to outlaws and rebellions and penal consequence for failure to observe the laws set up as codes for human conduct.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Nobody knows, they only believe.