Why Does Trump Refuse to Call Out Nazis in Charlottesville?

[Nakosis]

So one deranged person drove their car into a group of people and this paints an entire group? Apply the same logic and reasoning to Islam

Stupid 20yo kid. It only takes one to cause a lot of damage.

What else can we do but ridicule, mock and shame uncivilized ideologies?

 

[penxv]

I wouldn't be shocked at all if it's a psyop.

 

[leibowde84]

Trump has disavowed white supremacy before but probably should be doing this everyday or so.

Agreed. It isn't hard. If a politician has support from any white supremacy groups, it is their duty to disavow them anytime they get a chance.

 

[leibowde84]

I wouldn't be shocked at all if it's a psyop.

Why? The driver has a history of supporting naziism and white supremacy. So, why do you think this could have been a psyop? Orchestrated by whom?

 

[leibowde84]

So one person on a website that most people probably have never heard of until now made a comment and that is news? You must appreciate the genius of this, a guy puts a bucket of lemons in front of him and sits in a chair, other people come around and make the lemonade for him and he reaps the benefits- free publicity!.

Teacher: Don't take those red pills kids!
Kids: hmmm...We didn't know there were red pills

Now my question to you is how do you justify calling out one specific group especially when that group was peacefully gathering? I would call out those who were perpetrating the violence no matter who it was.

Also, racism should be "called out" at every single opportunity. It should be well-known to all that it is completely unamerican, unnacceptable, and unwelcome in our country. It should be ridiculed at every single possible turn. And, although it is perfectly legal, it should be made known that any public displays of racism (from anyone) will be met with public shaming, ridicule, etc. In short, it should be made clear that we don't want them here ... we are merely stuck with them.

 

[penxv]

Because of how the media has responded to it and because of the groups involved. It bears a strong resemblance to the other "school plays."

You can tell a bit more about the agenda after the fact when people start saying... Because Charlottesville, then x.

 

[Stanyon]

Btw, I am not OK with the guns being carried in the pictures above. I think it sends a violent message and is militaristic. I don't think that any weapons should be permitted at protests of any kind.

I support any protesters right to self protection, put two dogs in a ring to fight except declaw and defang one, who will win? What we want and what is are often two different things.

 

[sun rise]

I'm opposed to basically everything that VP Pence and AG Sessions want to do but I do applaud their statements which were clear and direct.

3/ Pence spoke out more forcefully than Trump on Charlottesville, saying: “We have no tolerance for hate and violence from white supremacists, neo Nazis or the KKK. These dangerous fringe groups have no place in American public life and in the American debate, and we condemn them in the strongest possible terms.” (Washington Post)


4/ Contrasting Trump's reluctance to criticize white supremacists, Jeff Sessions said the “evil attack” in Charlottesville is an act of domestic terrorism. “You can be sure we will charge and advance the investigation toward the most serious charges that can be brought because this is unequivocally an unacceptable evil attack." McMaster added: "Certainly I think we can confidently call it a form of terrorism." (New York Times / NBC News)

 

[leibowde84]

Because of how the media has responded to it and because of the groups involved. It bears a strong resemblance to the other "school plays."

You can tell a bit more about the agenda after the fact when people start saying... Because Charlottesville, then x.

But, why do you think it is a psyop? If it wasn't a psyop, do you really think that the media would have responded differently?

Is there any actual evidence (beyond speculative "seems likes") that leads you to believe it was a psyop? Or is this 100% speculation not based on any evidence?

Do you agree with white supremacy and/or the alt-right in any way?

 

[leibowde84]

I'm opposed to basically everything that VP Pence and AG Sessions want to do but I do applaud their statements which were clear and direct.

3/ Pence spoke out more forcefully than Trump on Charlottesville, saying: “We have no tolerance for hate and violence from white supremacists, neo Nazis or the KKK. These dangerous fringe groups have no place in American public life and in the American debate, and we condemn them in the strongest possible terms.” (Washington Post)


4/ Contrasting Trump's reluctance to criticize white supremacists, Jeff Sessions said the “evil attack” in Charlottesville is an act of domestic terrorism. “You can be sure we will charge and advance the investigation toward the most serious charges that can be brought because this is unequivocally an unacceptable evil attack." McMaster added: "Certainly I think we can confidently call it a form of terrorism." (New York Times / NBC News)

I agree. But, we can't fall into the trap of granting Trump credit for statements from Sessions and/or Pence. Trump has a tendency to avoid speaking out if it will lose him votes, no matter who those votes belong to. Then he hides behind the general White House statements to save face.

 

[penxv]

I think with this one that they were going for powerful visuals that they don't usually get. It reminds me of Charlie Hebdo where there was a car that pulled up to a taped line on the street and then got out and killed a police officer with a machine gun. The stage was preset and the cameraman was waiting at the perfect spot for a good visual.

How did multiple photographers catch perfect visuals of a split second panicked decision from some kid behind the wheel... it just doesn't add up.

 

[penxv]

But, why do you think it is a psyop? If it wasn't a psyop, do you really think that the media would have responded differently?

Is there any actual evidence (beyond speculative "seems likes") that leads you to believe it was a psyop? Or is this 100% speculation not based on any evidence?

Do you agree with white supremacy and/or the alt-right in any way?

White supremacy is silly.
The alt-right is propaganda for sure. The whole alternative media is packed with spooks.

 

[Revoltingest]

Condemning hateful organizations isn't wrongful, nor violent. Name them. Voice your disapproval. Like we are doing now. Why can't the president do the same?

All those I named have their roles in politics.
Tis best to condemn acts & wrongdoers, not broad groups.

 

[Stanyon]

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[David1967]

Glad I could help clarify. I wouldn't want any Trump voters on here thinking I am tossing them into the lot by default. Nah, instead let's just focus on the jackasses that actually did the horrible stuff.

Thank you for clarifying that.

 

[leibowde84]

I support any protesters right to self protection, put two dogs in a ring to fight except declaw and defang one, who will win? What we want and what is are often two different things.

Again, I don't support any protesters having firearms. I did not say that one side should be able to have them, and one side should not.

 

[leibowde84]

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If you have a message of white supremacy, it is only right that you should be ridiculed at every opportunity.

 

[Quetzal]

Thank you for clarifying that.

EXCEPT YOU! Into the lot you go!

 

[sun rise]

I agree. But, we can't fall into the trap of granting Trump credit for statements from Sessions and/or Pence. Trump has a tendency to avoid speaking out if it will lose him votes, no matter who those votes belong to. Then he hides behind the general White House statements to save face.

I don't credit Trump in the least. I'm contrasting him with Pence and Sessions.

 

[leibowde84]

White supremacy is silly.
The alt-right is propaganda for sure. The whole alternative media is packed with spooks.

By "alternative media" do you mean "fake news" sites like Breitbart? Also, what do you mean by "spooks"?