So, since you don't seem to care if people use violent means to seize territory from people, why did you deliberately leave out the facts of the seizure of land from the Palestinians?
The British gave it to the Jews , i said they were legal migrants.They established and they are a state since 1948.You have a problem with Israel being a state , or?
Suuure, they had the choice of either continuing to live on only a fraction of the land that they had previously lived on for generations, or to violently resist what was happening (which was, again, obviously going to happen) and thus be held all collectively responsible and be ethnically cleansed.
So didn't welcome the Jews , simple as that.
Ah, the old "nobody owns any land except through conquest, so it's all a-okay" argument.
Nono , i come from the land that is inhabited by the same people for many centuries.We are governing that land as every oder nation does.
Tell me, if in response to the British mandate the Palestinians literally killed every Jewish settler, destroyed their history, wiped out Jewish settlements (including ones that had existed their for generations) and then continued to commit crimes against Jewish populations in the region, would you be implying that that was a perfectly valid and reasonable response? And would you deliberately be leaving out important details in order to paint Jewish communities as the sole aggressors in this case?
No , Arabs started the war , you seem to forget that.
They started the war , because they were not satisfied with what was hapening.
What relevance does that have? You think that means that Israeli militias have the right to annex territory, murder people, de-home more than 700,000 people, raze villages and delete entire cultural histories?
If you are not consistent with that 'annex' , it's useless to talk
You know that Muslims as a minority in many countries, too.
Yes , i have Muslim friends , they don't support Hamas.
I guess that means that anything Hamas does is fine and shouldn't be acknowledged (or we should actively pretend they don't exist) in order to portray Muslims in all circumstances as victims and never perpetrators.
No , nothing that Hamas did is fine.
Neither is fine what Israel is doing in this war with innovent lives.
They had lived there for generations. Many of them alongside Jews and Jewish communities who had been there just as long.
Yes , ok , so two state is what is probable , but it seems that the main issue is territory.
I would say it of literally ALL conquest. Do you seriously want to suggest that violent resistance wasn't an inevitable consequence of Britain literally giving thousands of miles of land that had been settled for generations away and forcing the people who lived their to move away? Did you think the local population would just pick up and leave, happy as Larry?
They did what they did , who should we seek answers from ? The British ?
The Jews came and they were not welcomed.
Disgusting over-generalization and an appalling broad brush.
Yeah , you find it hard to belive that Palestinians have other choices.
That's hilarious. They're literally dis-empowered and Gaza is little more than an open-air prison.
Yes , right now it is.
Israel has one of the most highly funded militaries in the world and the backing and veto power of the world's largest superpower.
Yes , that is why the way Israel operates is wrong.
They can never negotiate from a position of any kind of power, and the failure of their leadership to do so is not a fault of the Palestinian people.
Nobody is talking about now , we can say nothing now , it is war.
In war every side thinks they are the right side.
After fifty-plus years of oppression, people tend to develop extremist tendencies.Remember, you're the one who wants to judge things in terms of the history of the conflict - except, when Palestinians do bad thing, you see it is a moral failing on their part. Weird how you have that double standard.
No , Israel is not the good side here.I don't know how you get to that conclusion based on my answers.
I don't find it bizarre to suggest that people who have lived on land for generations have a more legitimate claim to it than an imperialist nation that simply claims legal ownership of it.
Ok , so the Jews were as long as Arabs (+/-) , so two state solution.
"It started" is obvious. What I'm curious about is why you deliberately misrepresented events to indicate Palestinians as the sole agitators, deliberately missing out the British involvement, the partition and the Nakba.
Because they don't want a Jewish state.
That's a fact of History , not some invented dogma.
No, it's what you keep doing. Stop it.
What am i doing?
