Would you ask the same with Ukraine to surrender to Russia ?
war of russia vs ukraine is threaten humanity existance ,because WW3 nuclear weapon is last war of humans.
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Why Doesn't the World Call on Hamas to Surrender?
- Thread starter icehorse
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war of russia vs ukraine is threaten humanity existance ,because WW3 nuclear weapon is last war of humans.
MayPeaceBeUpOnYou
Active Member
Because it’s a open air prison.
We Never Know
No Slack
And go where?
Balthazzar
N. Germanic Descent
Ok, so I guess they've been fighting. And I guess there is no sign of it ending any time soon. Ok, so Hamas is utilizing the Palestinian people, namely civilians, as recruits for their efforts ... Umm, human shields specifically, but what good is a rebellious and unsupportive citizen base to Hamas? I'm sure they must show support. It's tragic, but what can be done about groups who have been planning this type of government rule and conflict for I'm guessing a few decades now? I don't know if there is a way to convince Hamas to quit fighting, so the world calling for their surrender seems pretty well pointless. Honestly, I question whether the mindset is isolated to just Gaza strip and Israel. I'm thinking no, but what the hell do I know about it? I live somewhere across the pond.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Anywhere they aren't being blown up.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Run by who?
MayPeaceBeUpOnYou
Active Member
Well Israel controls the borders, sea and air.
Egypt obviously controls his borders with gaza
Israel controls the borders sea and air space
Egypt obviously controls his borders with gaza
dybmh
ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
It's worse than that, but you're on the right track.
dybmh
ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
Nah, that's a myth. There's a Palestinian journalist who posted their pictures of this so-called prison. Lovely place, beautiful beaches, delicious fancy food, happy people .... etc.
Don't believe the hype. It's rubbish.
MayPeaceBeUpOnYou
Active Member
What a logic. So when people are in a prison in the us and they are happy and laughing then they arent in a priosn?.
When people are in a situation and can’t control it, then they will accept the reality and make the best out of life. Same goes when people are in prison in the us. There is no way of getting out so accepting the reality in order to make best of it.
MayPeaceBeUpOnYou
Active Member
The issue isn’t taking refugees. The issue is there will be no way of return, like some officials of the Zionist have preached, that it’s best for them to go way and not return.
InvestigateTruth
Veteran Member
Didn't your Prophet say this?
Narrated ‘Ali, the Messenger of Allah –may Allah’s peace and blessings be upon him- said:
“There will come a time upon the people when nothing will remain of Islam except its name and nothing will remain of the Quran except its words. Their mosques will be splendidly furnished but destitute of guidance. Their scholars will be the worst people under the Heaven; strife (fitna) will issue from them and avert to them.” (Mishkat al-Masabih 1/91 Hadith 276)
Mishkat al-Masabih is not the original Hadith source book. It has narrations with reference to other works giving full chain of narrators:
Al-Baihaqi –> Abu al-Hasan Ali bin Ahmad bin ‘Abdan –> Ahmad bin ‘Ubayd as-Safar –> Muhammad bin ‘Eisa bin Abi Iyas –> Sa’id bin Suleman –> ‘Abdullah bin Dukayn –> Ja’far bin Muhammad –> Muhammad bin ‘Ali –> ‘Ali bin Hussain –> ‘Ali bin Abi Talib –> Messenger of Allah, on whom be the peace and blessings of Allah.
In his Musnad (1/107) al-Daylami reports through al-Hakim the following, narrated by Ibn ‘Umar that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah’s peace and blessings be upon him, said:
سيأتي على الناس زمان لا يبقي من القرآن إلا رسمه، ولا من الإسلام إلا اسمه، يقسمون به وهم أبعد الناس منه، مساجدهم عامرة، خراب من الهدى، فقهاء ذلك الزمان شر فقهاء تحت ظل السماء، منهم خرجت الفتنة، وإليهم تعود
"Soon a time would come upon people when nothing will remain of Quran except its script, and nothing of Islam will remain except its name, they will divide and will be farthest from it. Their mosques will be furnished but devoid of guidance. The scholars of that age will be the worst people under the heavens. Strife will emerge from them and return to them.”
Khalid bin Yazid al-Ansari <– Ibn Abi Zi’b <– Nafi’ <– Ibn ‘Umar <-- Messenger of Allah, on whom be the peace and blessings of Allah.
“Soon nothing will remain of Islam except its name and of Quran except its script … In that day your mosques will be well furnished but your hearts and bodies will have no guidance. At that time the worst people under the sky will be your scholars, strife will originate with them and return to them.” A man stoop up and asked: “Why would this happen O Commander of the Faithful?” He said: “When the knowledge is the worst among you and when immorality spreads even amongst your best people and rule with the lowest amongst you, then the Doomsday will set in.” (Shu’b al-Iman, Hadith 1765)
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It's funny on how they just can't go to Egypt.
MayPeaceBeUpOnYou
Active Member
I don’t think it’s funny the situation Palestinians are in but yet again I am not surprised people think it’s funny
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It's just a figure of speech. Also can be substituted for peculiar.
The impression im getting is the Palestinians are just too violent and can cause trouble.
Why Egypt and other Arab countries are unwilling to take in Palestinian refugees from Gaza
As desperate Palestinians in sealed-off Gaza try to find refuge under Israel’s relentless bombardment in retaliation for Hamas’ brutal Oct. 7 attack, many ask why neighboring Egypt or other Arab countries don’t take them in.
InvestigateTruth
Veteran Member
Humanity should look at the present time, and figure out a solution which is practical to the problem.
If arguing and fighting was going to result in a solution, it would have by now.
But to me, looks like, people, who apparently are pro-Hamas, don't really care about the Palestinian people's life. They use this situation, as an opportunity to express their hatred and fanaticism against Jews. It is more about we are good, they are evil. It is about wanting to be superior.
Look at the map. See how tiny is this area that has been under dispute for decades?
The whole Isreal is one of the smallest countries. It is even smaller than a single Province of many countries.
Does it make sense to fight for this for decades, and die for it, even if, it really belonged to Palestinians? (though it is quite a debatable dispute)
Now, consider, this worldwide Muslim community who have so many lands and countries, could have helped the Palestinians to build their existing land with good quality, and if indeed some Palestinians don't have a place to live, they could take them as Refugees.
What is the Muslim brotherhood for then? Just a empty and void claim? Let's get real, and accept the truth.
MayPeaceBeUpOnYou
Active Member
So for clarification, they don’t take Palestinians in because they are violent and cause problems?It's just a figure of speech. Also can be substituted for peculiar.
The impression im getting is the Palestinians are just too violent and can cause trouble.
Why Egypt and other Arab countries are unwilling to take in Palestinian refugees from Gaza
As desperate Palestinians in sealed-off Gaza try to find refuge under Israel’s relentless bombardment in retaliation for Hamas’ brutal Oct. 7 attack, many ask why neighboring Egypt or other Arab countries don’t take them in.apnews.com
MayPeaceBeUpOnYou
Active Member
The truth is there cannot be peace without justice.
And to reply on the argument well why won’t Muslims countries take them in?
Why should they do that?
Why did Jews take land that was lived by Palestinians that lived with different kind of people. Couldn’t they create a state Elsewhere without having to remove people from their homes? Simple yes they could but wanted this particular land.
And the idea that Palestinians hating Jews is just denying history. They lived side by side in peace this changed when Zionist came in and demanded land which wasn’t theirs. They wanted a state for them alone. They thought they could get away because of the holocaust, which happened by the west and not by the Palestinians
You are so blind @InvestigateTruth. It's a plot of Gog and Magog to put Muslims in subjugation and keep them from having their own countries free. Israel invaded Lebanon too, but were kicked out.