Why Dont Christians Accept the Book of Mormon as Valid?

[ἀλήθεια]

:no:
This verse is talking about the Book of Revelation, not the Bible.
Everyone knows that.
:sleep:

Everyone does not know that. Nevertheless, God doesn't want anyone to add to His word.

Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
(Proverbs 30:5-6)

Are you really so bored by people who haven't been taught what you have? That's sad.

 

[ἀλήθεια]

Why would people need Salvation, whats to be saved from

Do all LDS live in fear

No, only some of them. No two people are alike! They want salvation from not spending eternity with Heavenly Father.

Why are you posting to this thread? We aren't discussing solism.

 

[herushura]

No, only some of them. No two people are alike! They want salvation from not spending eternity with Heavenly Father.

Why are you posting to this thread? We aren't discussing solism.

well i can break these salvation/hell/mormon/christendom/lds as astro-gargon taken seriously, i also used to be a dedicated christian.

Are you worried, that cos i stopped by belief, that i will go too hell, infact i dont live in fear, thus religion is not needed withen me, and the fact that people need
an heavenly father to help them be saved, even though biblical heaven and the sky are interchangablly the same thing, thus why would i want a father thats in the sky to somewhat save me, because i do as he is the sun, for people to survive they need food, the heavenly father , the sun grows our food, so he is infact saving us from this "starvation salvation", they is enough land to feed the world, yet people are starving, so you worshiping your god for salvation should be greatful that you dont live in starvation as many people are living in starvation, if people showed more dedication in saving others by feeding them, instead of saving them selves from something they are already saved from, then the word would be an healthier place.

 

[Katzpur]

well i can break these salvation/hell/mormon/christendom/lds as astro-gargon taken seriously, i also used to be a dedicated christian.

Are you worried, that cos i stopped by belief, that i will go too hell, infact i dont live in fear, thus religion is not needed withen me, and the fact that people need
an heavenly father to help them be saved, even though biblical heaven and the sky are interchangablly the same thing, thus why would i want a father thats in the sky to somewhat save me, because i do as he is the sun, for people to survive they need food, the heavenly father , the sun grows our food, so he is infact saving us from this "starvation salvation", they is enough land to feed the world, yet people are starving, so you worshiping your god for salvation should be greatful that you dont live in starvation as many people are living in starvation, if people showed more dedication in saving others by feeding them, instead of saving them selves from something they are already saved from, then the word would be an healthier place.

Please stop posting in the Same Faith Debates forum.

 

[Katzpur]

God is entitled to add to His own word whenever He pleases. It never ceases to amaze me how many people feel totally justified in saying it's time for Him to shut up.

 

[Katzpur]

Katspur, what I think is the question here is this, can a Christian be admitted to heaven without the BoM? (According to the LDS)

Books don't save people.

 

[Katzpur]

That would be great. I'm really not trying to be provocative. I really am interested to know the "nuts-and-bolts differences between how you and I perceive the gospel, and how the BOM is uniquely cogent to your position. Thanks for taking the time to consider. You might PM me if you start a new thread, so I know where it is.

Will do. I'll try to do it tonight, if I can.

 

[ἀλήθεια]

God is entitled to add to His own word whenever He pleases. It never ceases to amaze me how many people feel totally justified in saying it's time for Him to shut up.

No one, absolutely no one, said that God can't reveal His word. What was said is that God does not want man adding to His word. God's word is a lamp unto our feet.

Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
(Proverbs 30:5-6)

The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. (Psalm 12:6)

Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees. (Matthew 16:12)

Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. (2 Timothy 4:2-4)

If what some call modern revelation, is not God's word, it will most likely contradict what He has already given.



And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.
These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few. (Acts 17:10-12)

 

[zomg]

Everyone does not know that. Nevertheless, God doesn't want anyone to add to His word.

Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
(Proverbs 30:5-6)

Are you really so bored by people who haven't been taught what you have? That's sad.

God can add to his word if he darn well wants to do so.
Yes, I am bored by that argument.

 

[ἀλήθεια]

God can add to his word if he darn well wants to do so.
Yes, I am bored by that argument.

About the Book of Revelation? You could be GLAD that it came up so people could explain it. Put some chandelier crystals in your window and be glad! Be glad that there's something to talk about and explain. Or go somewhere where you are happy!

This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it. Then we won't have to be rude.

 

[tumbleweed41]

Books don't save people.

So then, a Christian may enter heaven without ever reading or being influenced by the BoM? Is that true?

 

[McBell]

No one, absolutely no one, said that God can't reveal His word. What was said is that God does not want man adding to His word. God's word is a lamp unto our feet.

When has man added to Gods word?
I mean other than the italicized words in the KJV.

 

[Katzpur]

So then, a Christian may enter heaven without ever reading or being influenced by the BoM? Is that true?

That is true.

 

[tumbleweed41]

Thank you Katzpur

 

[ἀλήθεια]

Then why would a Christian need to accept ... the teachings of the LDS?

"Only through celestial marriage can one find the strait way, the narrow path. Eternal life cannot be had in any other way." - Pres. Spencer W. Kimball was quoted in the Deseret News, Church News, Nov. 12, 1977

"The ordinances of the temple, the endowment and sealings, pertain to exaltation in the celestial kingdom, where the sons and daughters are. The sons and daughters are not outside in some other kingdom. The sons and daughters go into the house, belong to the household, have access to the home. ‘In my Father’s house are many mansions’ [John 14:2]. Sons and daughters have access to the home where he dwells, and you cannot receive that access until you go to the temple. Why? Because you must receive certain key words as well as make covenants by which you are able to enter. If you try to get into the house, and the door is locked, how are you going to enter, if you haven’t your key? You get your key in the temple, which will admit you.". . . You cannot find a key on the street, for that key is never lost that will open the door that enters into our Father’s mansions. You have got to go where the key is given. And each can obtain the key, if you will; but after receiving it, you may lose it, by having it taken away from you again unless you abide by the agreement which you entered into when you went into the house of the Lord." -Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, 2:40–41

 

[ἀλήθεια]

I know i am going right back to the beginning, but i believe that the bible is the word of God and when it says at
Rev 22:18-19
I am bearing witness to everyone that hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone makes an addition to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll; and if anyone takes anything away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God will take his portion away from the trees of life and out of the holy city, things which are written about in this scroll.

Can you please explain what the Book of Revelation has to do with the Book of Mormon? I don't see whatever it is that you believe you see.

 

[RemnanteK]

"Only through celestial marriage can one find the strait way, the narrow path. Eternal life cannot be had in any other way." - Pres. Spencer W. Kimball was quoted in the Deseret News, Church News, Nov. 12, 1977

"The ordinances of the temple, the endowment and sealings, pertain to exaltation in the celestial kingdom, where the sons and daughters are. The sons and daughters are not outside in some other kingdom. The sons and daughters go into the house, belong to the household, have access to the home. ‘In my Father’s house are many mansions’ [John 14:2]. Sons and daughters have access to the home where he dwells, and you cannot receive that access until you go to the temple. Why? Because you must receive certain key words as well as make covenants by which you are able to enter. If you try to get into the house, and the door is locked, how are you going to enter, if you haven’t your key? You get your key in the temple, which will admit you.". . . You cannot find a key on the street, for that key is never lost that will open the door that enters into our Father’s mansions. You have got to go where the key is given. And each can obtain the key, if you will; but after receiving it, you may lose it, by having it taken away from you again unless you abide by the agreement which you entered into when you went into the house of the Lord." -Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, 2:40–41

Lets not get caught up on the word or works of man.
The only truth is in the word of Jesus.
All that come to him shall have eternal life, what more can we ask for.

Can't we all just get along?

 

[Katzpur]

Then why would a Christian need to accept the BoM? Or the teachings of the LDS?

This is an answer I can't give in a couple of short sentences or in a brief quote from an LDS leader (although ἀλήθεια seems to be quite happy to try to answer all of the questions addressed to the LDS posters on the forum). Keep in mind that not all of her quotes are from canonical sources. I'm not going to bother to respond to them. I just want you and others who ask questions of us to recognize that the answers ἀλήθεια gives are not necessary the ones we would give. But as soon as any of us respond to her posts, things start to get heated.

I am going to start a thread in the LDS DIR where I intend to explain the LDS doctrine of the Plan of Salvation. That should answer most of your questions. It may be a day or so before I get to it, though.

 

[Watchmen]

"Only through celestial marriage can one find the strait way, the narrow path. Eternal life cannot be had in any other way." - Pres. Spencer W. Kimball was quoted in the Deseret News, Church News, Nov. 12, 1977

"The ordinances of the temple, the endowment and sealings, pertain to exaltation in the celestial kingdom, where the sons and daughters are. The sons and daughters are not outside in some other kingdom. The sons and daughters go into the house, belong to the household, have access to the home. ‘In my Father’s house are many mansions’ [John 14:2]. Sons and daughters have access to the home where he dwells, and you cannot receive that access until you go to the temple. Why? Because you must receive certain key words as well as make covenants by which you are able to enter. If you try to get into the house, and the door is locked, how are you going to enter, if you haven’t your key? You get your key in the temple, which will admit you.". . . You cannot find a key on the street, for that key is never lost that will open the door that enters into our Father’s mansions. You have got to go where the key is given. And each can obtain the key, if you will; but after receiving it, you may lose it, by having it taken away from you again unless you abide by the agreement which you entered into when you went into the house of the Lord." -Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, 2:40–41

Your sources are not canon. And our concept of Heaven is much more inclusive than yours.

 

[Watchmen]

The Book of Mormon is not adding to God's word. The Book of Mormon is God's word.