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why is being gay forbidden ?

NewGuyOnTheBlock

Cult Survivor/Fundamentalist Pentecostal Apostate
Greek does not have a word for "sperm".
By seed they meant exactly that.
Back then they thought the women was nothing more than an incubator for mans "seed".

We may have stumbled upon the real reason why "gay is forbidden"; the irrational fear that a man could actually incubate another man's "seed" .....
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
In Genesis 3:15, God is talking to Satan. He does not need to talk in parables to Satan, Satan already knows what the truth is. God is asking a question, that would not be a parable.
Adam, and Eve had to do something that makes the human family die. God would not punish the whole human family for what two people did. if you had two children, would you punish both for what one did?
In Genesis 3:15 God is talking to the serpent. Satan does not appear in Genesis.
 

NewGuyOnTheBlock

Cult Survivor/Fundamentalist Pentecostal Apostate
How would that work? Would the guy poop the baby??

Why are you asking me how that would supposed to work? Did you get it into your head that I am so ignorant as to believe that a guy could actually incubate another man's seed in their colon!?

Read my post again: this time, focus on the word "irrational" and focus on they may have believed that a woman incubated a man's seed. Remember that they had little, or no, knowledge on how pregnancy really works.
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
Why are you asking me how that would supposed to work? Did you get it into your head that I am so ignorant as to believe that a guy could actually incubate another man's seed in their colon!?

Read my post again: this time, focus on the word "irrational" and focus on they may have believed that a woman incubated a man's seed. Remember that they had little, or no, knowledge on how pregnancy really works.

Soj has been known to engage in doses of sarcasm, fwiw. :)
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Why are you asking me how that would supposed to work? Did you get it into your head that I am so ignorant as to believe that a guy could actually incubate another man's seed in their colon!?

Read my post again: this time, focus on the word "irrational" and focus on they may have believed that a woman incubated a man's seed. Remember that they had little, or no, knowledge on how pregnancy really works.
It was a joke. Lighten up!
 

Leftimies

Dwelling in the Principle
In alot of the major religions being gay is a sin. Now , this makes zero sense to me , because first off there is no reason and second gays are born that way , so did God create them just so they can burn in hell ? I have heard the reason is that gay sex spreads Diseases , but so does heterosexual sex. So why do you punish people for the way they were born ?

In my view, the condemnation stems from a time where group survival was the number one priority for human beings. Of course, homosexual individuals not procreating, the remainder of a group will perceive them as a burden for the group's long term strategy (the burden being mouths to share food with but genes not passed on). The stigma can be explained - I believe - with this, and it is then reflected in various religions that came to be later. Back then, it did make sense, but then again many other incredibly cruel things did also make sense and the world was a much, much more gloomy place.

Nowadays, the urgency of species survival is less intense (though it is still there, most are just willingly ignorant of it), so those of us who are born to this age, such as myself, take a tolerant and understanding view on these people, who by the way have stopped being a burden and who can contribute to the group in other ways. For example, a genius researcher who happens to be a gay/bisexual/transgender will be more crucial for human survival than ten straight lumberjacks. Of course, the reverse is also true, although I might have trouble finding ten gay lumberjacks.

In any case, that's how I'd figure it all out.
 

NewGuyOnTheBlock

Cult Survivor/Fundamentalist Pentecostal Apostate

AIDS is not a gay disease. It was not started by gays. It was started by monkey hunters in Africa coming into contact with contaminated blood. Condemning gays for AIDS is like condemning Native Americans for Hepatitis A (as they are the highest risk group for contracting this disease): CDC DVH - Viral Hepatitis Statistics & Surveillance - 2009 Surveillance Data for Acute Viral Hepatitis - Slide 2.4 ... proof, then, that Native Americans are a threat to public health and should be dealt with accordingly ...

Both statements are untrue (AIDS is a gay disease and Hepatitis A is a Native American disease).

I don't care what they called it in 1981. Today, it's called AIDS.
 

Domenic

Active Member
In Genesis 3:15 God is talking to the serpent. Satan does not appear in Genesis.

Revelation 12:9
"So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan." Rev12:9 is the first place the serpent in the garden is identified.
 

Domenic

Active Member
Why are you asking me how that would supposed to work? Did you get it into your head that I am so ignorant as to believe that a guy could actually incubate another man's seed in their colon!?

Read my post again: this time, focus on the word "irrational" and focus on they may have believed that a woman incubated a man's seed. Remember that they had little, or no, knowledge on how pregnancy really works.

Adam and the women knew how babies were made. They watched the animals. Adam named all the animals, that had to take time...I'm sure he saw them having sex, and having little ones. They had a perfect mind...they were not created stupid.
 

NewGuyOnTheBlock

Cult Survivor/Fundamentalist Pentecostal Apostate
Adam and the women knew how babies were made. They watched the animals. Adam named all the animals, that had to take time...I'm sure he saw them having sex, and having little ones. They had a perfect mind...they were not created stupid.

Putting the mythologies aside and focusing on primitive man ... I never called them "stupid"; but merely contemplated how much of the reproductive process they could actually observe. They were not veterinarians or doctors with sonogram machines, x ray machines or microscopes. Are you telling me that you think they had intimate knowledge of sperm and egg or the development of a fetus inside the womb!?

Sure, they were not stupid; and they could observe; but they could not observe more than what their five senses could perceive. And their senses were simply not enough for them to understand how reproduction works past mammals have intercourse, the male ejaculates, the female bears offspring.
 
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