muhammad_isa
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Well I care about what other people's religions are teaching.I don't give a rats behind what Islam teaches..
It matters to me, and I think it matters to G-d.
We all have a conscience.
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Well I care about what other people's religions are teaching.I don't give a rats behind what Islam teaches..
It seems to me, that when somebody doesn't like what is pointed out, they then cry "anti-semitism".What is "quite clear" is your comfort with well worn antisemitic tropes, clear but unsurprising.
I think one major thing the law reveals is that no one is capable of keeping all the commandments all the time. Everyone falls short,
It seems to me that when someone notices ignorant antisemitic tropes, they should expose them.It seems to me, that when somebody doesn't like what is pointed out, they then cry "anti-semitism".
... nor against hypocrisy.I have nothing against Jews ..
Am I not allowed to speak out against what I consider to be evil ?
You realize that stance creates a genuine need to challenge those who believe in such a God?By definition of homophobia and anti-Semitism people throw around, then Quran is definitely both. Don't care what people think first rule of pleasing God.
They can do what they want. They can't extinguish the light of God no matter how much they try.You realize that stance creates a genuine need to challenge those who believe in such a God?
Or, much more likely, we (not "they") can't afford to trust the discernment of those who profess to believe in such a God.They can do what they want. They can't extinguish the light of God no matter how much they try.
It's hip to be an oppressor towards oppressed and side with oppressors these days. This is the reality of the west. The terminologies from "terrorist" to other things such as their usage of "human rights" is all to gear oppression.Or, much more likely, we (not "they") can't afford to trust the discernment of those who profess to believe in such a God.
And probably much else besides.
Such a shame.
It would be wise not to justify that perception.It's hip to be an oppressor towards oppressed and side with oppressors these days. This is the reality of the west. The terminologies from "terrorist" to other things is all to gear oppression.
I don't care what people think. The Quran says "fears no blame of a blamer" in 5:54 and says in another places "and does not enrage a disbeliever except that..." as one of the things believers do.It would be wise not to justify that perception.
I sincerely regret that you refuse to.
He is.The Messiah must be from David's line and from the tribe of Judah, Jesus was not.
Define tample.The Messiah must rebuild the temple
Oh , you mean the construction., the temple still stood when Jesus lived.
He united a large group , and that is how Christianity was born.The Messiah must reunite the Jews, the Jews were not even scattered when Jesus lived.
He is.The Messiah must be Jewish... duh.
He did , on the cross.The Messiah will establish world peace and rule justly
Yes he did., Jesus did not do this.
Matthew 5 , Matthew 22The Messiah will rule when the Torah is written in everyone's heart and all people acknowledge Hashem as G-d, Jesus did not do this.
Orthodox Christianity does not belive that the Son bears the guilt of his Father.In addition Jews do not accept the notion of a trinity or original sin.
Then with who did Abraham speak?We do not believe G-d will assume a human form. Nowhere in Messianic prophecy is the Messiah G-d in human form or otherwise.
Do you mean take responsibility or?Jews also do not believe anyone can assume responsibility for the sins of another.
Isaiah 53G-d also calls human sacrifice an abomination and condemns it in the strongest possible terms. There is nothing in Messianic prophecy about the Messiah dying and coming back at a later date, it says he will finish the job.
Where does this more come from in the first place?There's more, but that's a primer for anyone interested.
And many Christians don’t think that way, rather that the Holocaust was one of the worst evils to ever take place, where Jews were falsely blamed and targeted as scapegoats. I just hope Jews and non-Jews alike remember to … Never Forget.Many Christians like to allude to the notion that the holocaust was something Jews brought on themselves.
Don't you agreed that everyone is a sinner? And yet righteous do exist. So I don't see those as opposites.Thank you. I was thinking more where it is said in OT, but that is also good scripture. Although I think this also can leave room for speculation, if we look all other scriptures also.
I think sinful is the opposite of righteous, because:
…He who does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. To this end the Son of God was revealed, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whoever is born of God doesn't commit sin, because his seed remains in him; and he can't sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are revealed, and the children of the devil. Whoever doesn't do righteousness is not of God, neither is he who doesn't love his brother.
1 John 3:7-10
And righteousness means wisdom of the just, and then sinner means the opposite, a person without that wisdom of the just. If person doesn't have the wisdom, it leads to bad actions that then can be called sin, and sin is what sinner does as righteousness is what righteous does.
But, making a mistake is not necessary a sin, because also righteous person can fail:
For a righteous man falls seven times, and rises up again; But the wicked are overthrown by calamity.
Prov. 24:16
I think the difference between righteous and sinner is, righteous doesn't reject God, even when he fails. Righteous person will be sorry and ask forgiveness, when he sees he has done wrongly (like for example David). Sinner doesn't care. This is why I think sin means actually rejecting God, or to be without God. And that can lead to many wrong actions that then can also be called sin.
Everyone who sins also commits lawlessness. Sin is lawlessness.
1 John 3:4
I agree wholeheartedly...rather that the Holocaust was one of the worst evils a to ever take place, where Jews were falsely blamed and targeted as scapegoats..
He is.
But this discussion is sensitive and requires a little bit of time so the reader can understand the point.
Define tample.
Oh , you mean the construction.
In that case , it still stood.
He united a large group , and that is how Christianity was born.
Christianity came out as consequennce of the teachings of certain group of Jewish people and their teachings came as consequence of Jesus' ministry.
The Apostles were Jewish , don't forget.
He is.
He did , on the cross.
But many think a ruler will come who will sit on some chair and rule like a politician
Yes he did.
Matthew 5 , Matthew 22
Orthodox Christianity does not belive that the Son bears the guilt of his Father.
It's simple as that.
And that doctrine is not so easy to understand. It's an issue itself inside Christianity.
Then with who did Abraham speak?
Do you mean take responsibility or?
Isaiah 53
Where does this more come from in the first place?
But that doesn't deal with the issue of "original sin".The significance of article nine is that it conflates men with persons, which is meaningful in the context of the union of church and state, since the state treats men as if they were persons and the natural rights of men relate to deity. This loss of status was known as capitis deminutio in Roman law.