So you think it's acceptable to pay immigrants below average wages instead of paying locals fair ones?
You're against raising wages for poor people? Instead you bring in foreigners to do the work for less pay.
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Why The Hate For Brexit Voters?
- Thread starter Rival
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You're against raising wages for poor people? Instead you bring in foreigners to do the work for less pay.
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That sounds like the problem of the greedy business owner, wanting to pay crap wages. And why should these poor people from other countries be our cheap labor? That's rather insulting, as if they don't deserve any better. We all do. If you can't afford to pay your workers a wage that will pay their bills and put food on the table, you deserve to go out of business. It's on them.
Secret Chief
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Why?
The pay was what the job earned. You think its acceptable to go broke paying above what tje job can earn just to satisfy some brexiters?
Well it obviously wasn't. When my parents did it it was decent paying work they were prepared to do for the Co-Op.
So your position is even worse. It's crap work we get foreigners to do for crappy pay.
I mean, that's not brilliant either.
Every job should pay at least minimum wage, which is not what these immigrants are being offered.
The job pays what it's worth. Brits want cheap food and wont pay enough for food to increase eages.
Correct, farmers cannot afford to subsidise wages to meet expectations when people won't pay. So yes they go out of business
And guess what, food shortages are the result
So pay what it costs to harvest the food. Simple
Yeah, a lot of money for hours of backbreaking work done in the heat.
Definitely sounds like more than minimum wage work to me.
Also sounds like a classist attitude against blue collar workers.
Because it is right that those places remain British and it is a matter of prestige
Secret Chief
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And when the care/health sector staff all left obviously the country was awash with unemployed care/health staff ready to step into their shoes. Not. Hence all the unfilled vacancies and understaffing. It's all them elites orchestrating this for their own nefarious ends. Oh wait, what's that smell?
Secret Chief
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Why is it right? What is the prestige from?
If people made more money, they could afford to buy more expensive things. I do not care about someone going out of business for trying to pay, often illegal, slave wages. Their business fails because of their own faulty practices.
Also, wages have been stagnant for decades while the salaries of the CEOs and upper class go through the roof, so don't give me that "the job pays what it's worth" crap. Especially since you're not talking about some poor mom and pop farm. These are big agricultural corporations who are employing all these people.
We have the same crap in America and they use the same pathetic arguments to try and justify their use of quasi-slave labor. Except over here, it's Mexican and Central American illegals who are toiling and suffering in subpar working conditions for a pittance. But as long as it's "those people", who gives a damn, right?.
Secret Chief
Degrow!
Yet the same farmers had Leave banners next to their fields on roadsides. Didn't really think it through did they...
Secret Chief
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Exactly. Eastern Europeans were prepared to have the jobs the locals didn't want to do. Nobody made the leave-supporting farmers employ those bloody foreigners. The wage levels were not illegal, they were the market rate for the job - irrespective of the person's nationality.
They didn't think it through. And now they are reaping the results
Sure its hard work.
But
Sounds like people not willing to pay fair prices to enable farmers to pay fair wages.
Migrant workers are being ripped off by employers on farms
Farm workers are having hundreds of pounds unlawfully deducted from their payslips, an investigation by the Bureau of Investigative Journalism and VICE…
Migrant agricultural workers who travelled thousands of miles to plug labour gaps on UK farms have faced unlawful wage deductions, the Bureau of Investigative Journalism and VICE World News can reveal.
Research by TBIJ and VICE World News, along with case work data from the Work Rights Centre, found that more than 20 people working at nine farms across the UK reported being underpaid – by more than £1,000 in at least two cases.
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Pangeni is among the nearly 35,000 migrant workers who came to work in the UK on six-month seasonal worker visas last year. Human rights groups have consistently warned that the visa’s structure, and the lack of enforcement of employment and visa regulations, put people at risk of exploitation. But the government has steadily increased the number of visas issued since 2019. As many as 55,000 could be issued this year.
It's bad we're allowing this crap.
**** this gov.
These farmers are not poor.
Secret Chief
Degrow!
I saw what you did there
Welcome to the vicious circle of the farm economy.
I'll repeat, if people won't pay a fair tate for their food then how the hell are farmers supposed to pay a fair wage?