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    Was Jesus Psychotic?

    I don't believe the Jesus character actually existed. But his claimed teachings are not sane. No one loves their enemies and behaves like they love them. Are we supposed to love terrorists who seek to kill our friends and family ? Were we supposed to drop flowers on Nazi Germany in WWII...
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    The ultimate question for theists

    There is a reason to assume the universe has always existed. That is, it actually does exist. On the other hand "God" is just a creation of human imagination. How can one assume God always existed when there is no evidence he actually exists at all ?
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    Is it OK to question other people's beliefs?

    When someone tells me I will burn in hell for not believing in their God, then absolutely, it's OK to question their beliefs.
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    Losing my atheism (my new spiritual journey)

    What's missing from your analysis is the effect of time on evolution. Very small, seemingly insignificant changes occurring over billions of years can result in seemingly impossible results. The Colorado river started as a tiny creek. But over millions of years it created the Grand Canyon...
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    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    It seems you are saying to each his own. I fully agree with that. However, some religions, including christianity and Islam, tend to condem non-followers.
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    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    It seems odd that a god would communicate his message in a way that is so equivocal that there are as many seemingly legitimate ways to interpret it as there are people. This is how we end up with over 35,000 sects of christianity alone. In this scenario, one can never be certain about which...
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    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    "without progress in scriptural interpretations, we are all doomed." Why ? How so ?
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    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    If you don't see a contradiction in moral behavior here, there is no point in discussing this further; Exodus 20:13American Standard Version (ASV) 13 Thou shalt not kill. Deuteronomy 13:6 – “If your brother, your mother’s son or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who...
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    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    Exactly ! Even the bible acknowledges that morals are not absolute, but instead, relative, depending on the circumstances associated with the act.
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    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    So, if you think you have something to contribute to the discussion beyond "you are wrong and bad", please do. Show me where the points I make are not valid.
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    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    Exploring and promoting the truth.
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    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    If jesus readily accepted being tortured and killed, why did he ask "father, why have you forsaken me" in his final words before death ? So god required HIS own death as ransom to end the condemnation HE imposed on all future generations of humanity because two people, in the beginning...
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    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    Sorry if I offended or disturbed you.
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    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    Not that big of a difference. Either way the general point is the bible is not a good source for moral guidance.
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    Do Athiests have morals?

    No, because atheists follow the laws of man, as it should be. You don't get to violate the laws of man even if your religion compels you to.
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    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    It's not really a bait and switch. The sentence following the introductory paragraph of my initial post alludes to moral relativism in the bible. The second to last sentence addresses it directly. I suppose a second theme is what appears to be immoral circumstances and messages in the bible...
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    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    Well, if the bible is "the word of God", and God is perfect, incapable error, there should be NO misses. The existence of misses in some cases opens the possibility of misses in other places. This contradicts the notion that the bible is an infallible, absolute source of morality. It also...
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    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    There is a bug crawling around on my screen !
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    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    Who decides what is wrongful or illegal ? It's relative.
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