Apparently a trans woman can shower with young teen girls ab while having a penis.

[VoidCat]

But rape is much more serious than woman on woman sexual violence. So more serious crime = severer punishment.

but woman can rape another woman?I'm confused

 

[Estro Felino]

but woman can rape another woman?I'm confused

No. It's called sexual violence.
We are very graphic in the definitions. Rape implies a penis-haver that penetrates another person (woman or man).

 

[Father Heathen]

I imagine Blaire White is as well...right?
She said the same things.

Who?

*googles*

Oh, just some random, irrelevant youtuber who regurgitates RW propaganda.

 

[VoidCat]

No. It's called sexual violence.
We are very graphic in the definitions. Rape implies a penis-haver that penetrates another person (woman or man).

ok then show me the legal definition in itatly of rape. I'm having a hard time finding it. I was assuming they were referring to rape regarding the term sexual violence but maybe they have a separate definition for rape.

 

[Father Heathen]

No. It's called sexual violence.
We are very graphic in the definitions. Rape implies a penis-haver that penetrates another person (woman or man).

The dictionary defines rape as: unlawful sexual intercourse or any other sexual penetration of the vagina, anus, or mouth of another person, with or without force, by a sex organ, other body part, or foreign object, without the consent of the person subjected to such penetration.

 

[Estro Felino]

The dictionary defines rape as: unlawful sexual intercourse or any other sexual penetration of the vagina, anus, or mouth of another person, with or without force, by a sex organ, other body part, or foreign object, without the consent of the person subjected to such penetration.

In English, that's right.
But our term is different, it has a different etymology that implies intercourse.

 

[VoidCat]

The dictionary defines rape as: unlawful sexual intercourse or any other sexual penetration of the vagina, anus, or mouth of another person, with or without force, by a sex organ, other body part, or foreign object, without the consent of the person subjected to such penetration.

shes referring to legal definitions I'm assuming. Some countries can be backwards in regards to legal definitions and only refer rape if it involves penetration of a penis and some countries dont recognize martial rape.

 

[Estro Felino]

Who?

*googles*

Oh, thus some random, irrelevant youtuber who regurgitates RW propaganda.

I respect everyone.
But what I saw is a girl that was traumatized because she saw what she was never supposed to see in a women's facility. In a only-females space.
Period.
Do you think she is overreacting? Tell me what you think.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Are you equating lesbians to transwomen?

No. It's a simple question.

They are two different categories, so I will only deal with trans people, since that's the topic.

Why can't you answer a simple question?

If a lesbian rapist (or serial sexual assaulter, if your prefer) is convicted, should they be in a male or female prison?

If your answer is that they belong in a women's prison, then obviously them posing a risk to other women isn't a deciding factor in where they are imprisoned, right?

 

[Estro Felino]

No. It's a simple question.


Why can't you answer a simple question?

If a lesbian rapist (or serial sexual assaulter, if your prefer) is convicted, should they be in a male or female prison?

If your answer is that they belong in a women's prison, then obviously them posing a risk to other women isn't a deciding factor in where they are imprisoned, right?

The jurisprudence is almost absent on the topic because the casuistry is too small.
There are single cells in female facilities.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

The jurisprudence is almost absent on the topic because the casuistry is too small.
There are single cells in female facilities.

So you don't care if a trans woman ends up in a womens prison, then?

 

[Estro Felino]

So you don't care if a trans woman ends up in a womens prison, then?

In my country, if they still have M, written in their ID, trans women are sent to males' prisons.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

In my country, if they still have M, written in their ID, trans women are sent to males' prisons.

Can you answer the question?

 

[Estro Felino]

Can you answer the question?

The answer: I think that if they are post-op trans women, they should go to a women's prison.

 

[Father Heathen]

I respect everyone.
But what I saw is a girl that was traumatized because she saw what she was never supposed to see in a women's facility. In a only-females space.
Period.
Do you think she is overreacting? Tell me what you think.

Intent and context is everything. I think she's a pawn in a political game.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

The answer: I think that if they are post-op trans women, they should go to a women's prison.

Why? What difference does that make?

 

[Estro Felino]

Intent and context is everything. I think she's a pawn in a political game.

The situation is true. The employee at the desk confirmed the presence of a trans person.

 

[Estro Felino]

Why? What difference does that make?

For the same reasons why cismen cannot have access to women's facilities.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

For the same reasons why cismen cannot have access to women's facilities.

Which is...?

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Are you a man?
Can you have access to a woman's bathroom?

I'm just asking you the reasons why.

Can you tell me?