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Does the day of Christ ressurection tell us to worship on Sunday?

Where did Sunday come in as a day of worship, was it from the ressurection, did Christ rise and tell the Disciples something that was not in scripture or did the change come from elsewhere. Some people say 'I keep Sunday in honor of the Resurrection' or they are told that the Apostles began keeping Sunday as the day of worship after the ressurection, but did they. Did the ressurection somehow cause a change to the day of worship?

Worship is the reason for the Sabbath. It is the only day God ever gave us to worship Him on. "In vain they do worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."—Matthew 15:9. That which God gives us is the truth. We are to believe it and obey it. "Sanctify them through Thy truth: Thy Word is truth."—John 17:17. "Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth."—1 Timothy 2:4. "God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth."—2 Thessalonians 2:13. "Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit."—1 Peter 1:22. It is not safe to refuse obedience to the obvious truths of God’s Word. "He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination." Proverbs 28:9. "If any man willeth to do His will, he shall know of the teaching, whether it be of God."—John 7:17, R. V.

So what does the clear Word of God tell us when men come up with changes to what God has given us, or bring in tradition which go against Gods Law. "We ought to obey God rather than men." Acts 5:29.

So does the ressurection change the day of the Sabbath, well the problem is that God never told anyone to keep Sunday in honor of the resurrection of Christ—or for any other reason. But He decidedly and repeatedly told us to keep holy the seventh day of the week. What are the greatest events in history? Creation and Calvary and the Second Advent stand out. In Gethsemane on Thursday night and on the cross on Friday morning and afternoon, our salvation hung in the balance. By sundown Friday it was all settled. The price had been paid. The salvation of those who would accept it was assured. Then came the Sabbath day of rest, and Jesus our Lord rested in the tomb.

On Sunday morning, He rose and another work week began. Christ began working again. Mary was told not to detain Him for He had yet to ascend to heaven—which He did that day. A long trip to heaven and back again. And a visit to the fearful disciples on a road to Emmaus that evening and in an upper room where other disciples were hiding from the Jewish leaders. Frankly, the resurrection of Christ is in no way as important as is Calvary. Those who wish to abandon a clear command of God to keep the seventh day for another day, would do well to keep Friday holy in honor of Calvary.—But we keep a day holy because God says to, not because we decide to! Let us not imagine that we can abolish part of God’s Ten Commandments and substitute our own!

Someone will say "I wish we still had a memorial of Christ’s resurrection." Actually, Jesus gave us a memorial which combines His crucifixion and resurrection. And He commanded us to observe it.

This definite memorial is baptism. The death and resurrection of Christ are symbolized by the ordinance of baptism, and by partaking of it we partake of that experience with Him. This double symbolism is clearly explained by Paul:

"What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin [the breaking of the law; 1 John 3:4] that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Know ye not that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ—were baptized into His death? Therefore we are buried with Him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father,—even so we also should [rise and] walk in newness of life. For if we have been planted [buried] together in the likeness of His death, we shall be raised also in the likeness of His resurrection. Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin."—Romans 6:1-6.

Some say that they keep Sunday because it is the "great memorial of our redemption." This is not true. The sign or symbol or memorial of our redemption is the Bible Sabbath. Our keeping of it is the sign by which all men shall know that we belong to God our Creator and that it is He, and not we ourselves, who is saving us from sin and will ultimately redeem us from this evil world. The seventh-day Sabbath is the seal of the law and the sign that He is our Creator (Exodus 31:16-17). And it is the sign that He is our Redeemer. "Moreover also I gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between Me and them, that they might know that I am the Lord that sanctify them."—Ezekiel 20:12. His Sabbath kept in our lives is the sign that we belong to Him. "And hallow My Sabbaths, and they shall be a sign between Me and you, that ye may know that I am the Lord your God."—Ezekiel 20:20. The Bible Sabbath is the sign given by our Heavenly Father, that He is sanctifying or preparing us for eternal life. "Verily My Sabbaths ye shall keep, for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations that ye may know that I am the Lord that doth sanctify you."— Exodus 31:13.

Dr. J.P. Moreland (Distinguished Professor of Philosophy, Ph.D., University of Southern California, M.A., University of California, Riverside,Th.M., Dallas Theological Seminary, B.S., University of Missouri) says that the early apostles started worshiping on sunday because that was the day that Christ was known to have risen. This was applied by all later Christians, it was a day of worshiping and praiseing God for the ressurection miricle.
 

Beta

Well-Known Member
Scripture tells us that Jesus attended the synagogue on the Sabbath also that he was / is Lord of the Sabbath.
Upon closer inspection of scripture he also rose in the end of the sabbath for on the sunday morning he WAS ALREADY RISEN - past tense. All this is clearly seen in scripture , there was no easter-sunday resurrection. The Apostles and Disciples continued to observe the 7th day Sabbath AFTER the resurrection - even Paul - and keeping the feast days as per Leviticus Acts chapters 14-18. When he said he would go to the gentiles did he start to preach ANOTHER Gospel to them ? Of course not , he was no turncoat but followed Jesus all his lifetime 1Cor.11v1.
Why then do traditional christians put all their faith in sunday which has absolutely no biblical support ???
Seems they are setting themselves above the Word of God !
 
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sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Scripture tells us that Jesus attended the synagogue on the Sabbath also that he was / is Lord of the Sabbath.
Upon closer inspection of scripture he also rose in the end of the sabbath for on the sunday morning he WAS ALREADY RISEN - past tense. All this is clearly seen in scripture , there was no easter-sunday resurrection. The Apostles and Disciples continued to observe the 7th day Sabbath AFTER the resurrection - even Paul - and keeping the feast days as per Leviticus Acts chapters 14-18. When he said he would go to the gentiles did he start to preach ANOTHER Gospel to them ? Of course not , he was no turncoat but followed Jesus all his lifetime 1Cor.11v1.
Why then do traditional christians put all their faith in sunday which has absolutely no biblical support ???
Seems they are setting themselves above the Word of God !
Was he already risen? The sun was already up by the time the witnesses arrived. How long does resurrection take?
 

Godwilling

Organic, kinetic learner
It would help to know a bit more about history, at least Christian history.
Monday means day of worship of the moon, Tuesday day of worship of Mars, Wednesday day of worship of Mercury, …, Sunday day of worship of the Sun. Our current calendar was invented by the Romans and they dedicated each day to each of their gods. The Sun was the most important. The reason why it is not obvious in English is because we have kept the names of most of the planets in Latin while the days of the week were translated to Anglo-Saxon.

In French Lundi, Mardi, Mercredi…In Spanish: Lunes, Martes, Miercoles…The Roman Catholic Church changed the name from day of the Sun to Domenicus, or day of the Empire. In other words, the days of the week have pagan origin and name. The Sunday was adopted as the day of rest by the Romans and the Catholic Church continued the pagan tradition. Martin Luther created Protestantism by rebelling against some obvious discrepancies between the Bible and Roman Catholic practices, but obviously not all because he kept many non-biblical practices. More fundamental Biblical thought was born in central Europe that challenged Luther’s doctrine, and it continued to shed pagan practices. The practice of celebrating the day of the Sun, Sunday, as a day of rest and worship has survived for thousands of years because people (and that includes Christians) are easily enslaved by habits. More importantly, most people fear change, especially if it challenges their beliefs.
 

Beta

Well-Known Member
Good post my friend GODWILLING ,
but no matter what realistic or biblical explanation we present to the ' traditional ' christian he will stick to ' traditions of men'. The Bible says the whole world is deceived and in the snare of the devil except the few called and chosen who believe GOD.
Until Christ returns and satan is thrown into the pit there will be no change from false beliefs. :no:
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
It would help to know a bit more about history, at least Christian history.
Monday means day of worship of the moon, Tuesday day of worship of Mars, Wednesday day of worship of Mercury, …, Sunday day of worship of the Sun. Our current calendar was invented by the Romans and they dedicated each day to each of their gods. The Sun was the most important. The reason why it is not obvious in English is because we have kept the names of most of the planets in Latin while the days of the week were translated to Anglo-Saxon.

In French Lundi, Mardi, Mercredi…In Spanish: Lunes, Martes, Miercoles…The Roman Catholic Church changed the name from day of the Sun to Domenicus, or day of the Empire. In other words, the days of the week have pagan origin and name. The Sunday was adopted as the day of rest by the Romans and the Catholic Church continued the pagan tradition. Martin Luther created Protestantism by rebelling against some obvious discrepancies between the Bible and Roman Catholic practices, but obviously not all because he kept many non-biblical practices. More fundamental Biblical thought was born in central Europe that challenged Luther’s doctrine, and it continued to shed pagan practices. The practice of celebrating the day of the Sun, Sunday, as a day of rest and worship has survived for thousands of years because people (and that includes Christians) are easily enslaved by habits. More importantly, most people fear change, especially if it challenges their beliefs.
Huh. Xians were celebrating the Lord's Day before the Church became centered in Rome. In fact, the Church has been far more influenced, early on, by Greek, not Roman thought.
 

Beta

Well-Known Member
Huh. Xians were celebrating the Lord's Day before the Church became centered in Rome. In fact, the Church has been far more influenced, early on, by Greek, not Roman thought.
And since when is the true Church to be influenced either by Greeks or Romans ??? GOD's seat is in Jerusalem , always has been always will be regardless of what deceived men come up with.
Of course the 'real Lord's Day' (the 7th Day Sabbath) was kept from the time of Exodus in the OT given to the children of Israel Ex.20v1 by GOD personally. It was not given to the Greeks or Romans originally - nor did they want to honour and keep it holy but invented their own false worship Day - sunday.
 

Beta

Well-Known Member
Was he already risen? The sun was already up by the time the witnesses arrived. How long does resurrection take?
I think it would be helpful to be a little more precise in reading of scripture to get at the truth.
The sun may have been up (or rather in the process of rising) by the time the witnesses (plural) arrived since there was some 'to-ing and fro-ing' in their confused state. But the earliest arrival is of Mary Magdalene WHEN IT WAS YET DARK Joh.20v1 and the stone already rolled away.
Obviously Jesus did not rise at 'sun-up' as also other scriptures prove, not least his own prediction of Jonah Mat.12v39,40. Only the false churches can squezze 72 hours into 36 as they have done ignoring scripture.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
And since when is the true Church to be influenced either by Greeks or Romans ??? GOD's seat is in Jerusalem , always has been always will be regardless of what deceived men come up with.
Of course the 'real Lord's Day' (the 7th Day Sabbath) was kept from the time of Exodus in the OT given to the children of Israel Ex.20v1 by GOD personally. It was not given to the Greeks or Romans originally - nor did they want to honour and keep it holy but invented their own false worship Day - sunday.
Because, as Matthew and Paul so eloquently point out, Xy represents the true Jerusalem -- one that understands itself to be global and inclusive. (ref: Matt: 28 and Paul's "there is no more Jew or Greek.")

God's seat is in reconciled humanity, regardless of what deceived men come up with.

It was kept until the early years c.e., when the Jews cordially invited the Christians not to come to synagogue. When that happened, the law of hospitality -- which had been at the heart of Judaism from early on -- was shattered. Until then, the Xians attended both synagogue on the Sabbath and the Agape feast on the Day of Resurrection.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
I think it would be helpful to be a little more precise in reading of scripture to get at the truth.
The sun may have been up (or rather in the process of rising) by the time the witnesses (plural) arrived since there was some 'to-ing and fro-ing' in their confused state. But the earliest arrival is of Mary Magdalene WHEN IT WAS YET DARK Joh.20v1 and the stone already rolled away.
Obviously Jesus did not rise at 'sun-up' as also other scriptures prove, not least his own prediction of Jonah Mat.12v39,40. Only the false churches can squezze 72 hours into 36 as they have done ignoring scripture.
John 20: Now on the first day of the week (Sunday), Mary Magdalene came to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb. So she ran, and went to Simon Peter..."

Doesn't say anything about resurrection there. She didn't see the risen Christ at that point. Perhaps Jesus was in process then. Further, "first day of the week" is "first day of the week," regardless of whether the sun is "up" or not, according to John.

There is considerable debate as to whether the Jonah passage in Matt. is authentic...
 

idea

Question Everything
In Old Testament times, God's covenant people observed the Sabbath on the seventh day of the week because God rested on the seventh day when He had created the earth. After the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, which occurred on the first day of the week, the Lord's disciples began observing the Sabbath on the first day of the week, Sunday (see Acts 20:7).

(New Testament | Acts 20:7)
7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread...

 

jml03

Member
When God created, on the seventh day He rested. I always thought Saturday was supposed to be the day we set aside for God and prayer. Yet we practice it on Sunday. Where does the name "Sunday" come from? Just curious if it could have originally been the day He created light or the sun. I know man came up with the names of the days of the week, but just a thought.
Another thing, if we are true to the laws set down by God, how many of us prepare all our meals on Saturday? Leave the dishes til Monday? Make sure we do NO WORK whatsoever on Sunday. That does not mean go to Burger King and have someone else prepare them, because then we are mocking what the day stands for. I can't say that I do any of that. I go to church, teach a kids class, come home and cook, clean, etc. But that is me, and what parts I choose to follow through with. God gives us freewill, and I believe He does not frown on my folding some clothes on the Sabbath.
 

jml03

Member
In Old Testament times, God's covenant people observed the Sabbath on the seventh day of the week because God rested on the seventh day when He had created the earth. After the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, which occurred on the first day of the week, the Lord's disciples began observing the Sabbath on the first day of the week, Sunday (see Acts 20:7).

(New Testament | Acts 20:7)
7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread...


So, there's where it originated.
 

Smoke

Done here.
In Old Testament times, God's covenant people observed the Sabbath on the seventh day of the week because God rested on the seventh day when He had created the earth. After the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, which occurred on the first day of the week, the Lord's disciples began observing the Sabbath on the first day of the week, Sunday (see Acts 20:7).

(New Testament | Acts 20:7)
7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread...


That doesn't say they observed the Sabbath on the first day; it says they gathered to break bread on the first day. So following that, it would make sense for Christians to gather on the first day, regardless of when the Sabbath is. In the Orthodox Churches Saturday is still regarded as the Sabbath, but Sunday is the Lord's Day, and the main day Christians gather to commemorate the Resurrection.

Of course, Orthodox Christians have services appointed for every day of the year, although there may not be a public service every day except in cathedrals and monasteries. Pious laymen sometimes read the services daily at home.

I don't see any reason why other Christians shouldn't also worship every day. If they believe in God, it seems odd to relegate his worship to one day in seven.
 

idea

Question Everything
That doesn't say they observed the Sabbath on the first day; it says they gathered to break bread on the first day.

breaking bread = taking the sacrament.
gathering together, preaching, and taking the sacrament = church...
Acts 20:7 first day of the week ... Paul preached


(New Testament | 1 Corinthians16:2)
2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

no working / gathering... on the first day of the week...


In any event, no need to be a Pharasee about it - just so one out of every 7 days is a day of rest, it doesn't really matter which one.
 
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duane2064

New Member
Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.

Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come



this is a request that no collections of money be made when he comes on the first day.




i say gather in public to worship our father, any day you want.
as long as you:
1 don't bring a burden out of your house on the sabbath
2 don't burn a flame on the sabbath


a car does both, it is both a burden and it burns a flame.


so:
1-if you want to gather to worship our father on the sabbath. do it on your own two feet.
2-if you want to worship our father on any other day, take your car, burn a flame, take a burden out of your house if you like.


also there is no certain day to do the
LORD'S SUPPER


this is more of an introspective event than outward. and though is to be done in public you are commanded not to do it if you have unconfessed sin, or if you have not taken the time to reflect on any possible unconfessed sin, and therefore there is no set schedule, and it too can be done on any day.


worship and lord's supper on anyday


work and taking-a-burden-out-of-your-house and burning-a-flame(anything that produces either light or heat)


these can be done on any day except the sabbath.






THE CHUCRCH HAS NOT ENOUGH STRENGHT TO BRING FORTH
THE CHUCRCH HAS NOT ENOUGH STRENGHT TO BRING FORTH
THE CHUCRCH HAS NOT ENOUGH STRENGHT TO BRING FORTH


BECAUSE OF ALL THE LIES


STOP TELLING LIES
 

james2ko

Well-Known Member
In Old Testament times, God's covenant people observed the Sabbath on the seventh day of the week because God rested on the seventh day when He had created the earth. After the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, which occurred on the first day of the week, the Lord's disciples began observing the Sabbath on the first day of the week, Sunday (see Acts 20:7).

(New Testament | Acts 20:7)
7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread...


On this particular occasion, Paul had conducted Sabbath services earlier on the Sabbath [Saturday] and continued to instruct and exhort the brethren because he was to depart on his journey the very next day—the daylight portion of Sunday. Remember, the beginning of a day for the Jews was at sunset. So after having met on the daylight portion of Saturday, Paul continued preaching for many hours continuing into "Saturday evening" (which was the beginning of the first day of the week) and on through midnight. After having miraculously revived a youth, taken up as dead, who had fallen from the loft, as Paul was "long preaching" (vs. 9-10), he actually continued encouraging the brethren until daybreak (vs. 11). He was scheduled to depart and not likely to ever see them again.

There is no indication in this verse that meeting together on the first day of the week had become the custom in the apostolic era.
 

Beta

Well-Known Member
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On this particular occasion, Paul had conducted Sabbath services earlier on the Sabbath [Saturday] and continued to instruct and exhort the brethren because he was to depart on his journey the very next day—the daylight portion of Sunday. Remember, the beginning of a day for the Jews was at sunset. So after having met on the daylight portion of Saturday, Paul continued preaching for many hours continuing into "Saturday evening" (which was the beginning of the first day of the week) and on through midnight. After having miraculously revived a youth, taken up as dead, who had fallen from the loft, as Paul was "long preaching" (vs. 9-10), he actually continued encouraging the brethren until daybreak (vs. 11). He was scheduled to depart and not likely to ever see them again.

There is no indication in this verse that meeting together on the first day of the week had become the custom in the apostolic era.
Agree with you james, 'breaking bread' in this inst meant 'taking a meal'. People in those days did not sit down to a knife and fork dinner but mostly to home-baked bread and cheese which they broke with their fingers. Slicing Bread would not have been the custom.
Paul on his travels stopped off at Troas in Asia Minor. They had already observed the days of Unleavened Bread (God's commanded feast) at Philippi. After the Sabbath ended at beg.of first day they had brokenn Bread together and eaten, it was their evening meal v11 (it was not the Lord's Supper, Communion or sacrement).
The Ship had already set sail after the Sabbath but
Paul took opportunity to stay on with the Brethren to teach and preach late into the night to catch the ship next day at Assos. It meant he had to walk across Land (take a short-cut) while the ship navigated a much longer trip around a dangerous coastline to get to the other side.
 

Beta

Well-Known Member
breaking bread = taking the sacrament.
gathering together, preaching, and taking the sacrament = church...
Acts 20:7 first day of the week ... Paul preached
(New Testament | 1 Corinthians16:2)
2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.
no working / gathering... on the first day of the week...
In any event, no need to be a Pharasee about it - just so one out of every 7 days is a day of rest, it doesn't really matter which one.
It is not forbidden to teach and preach any day as long as you also observe the 7th day Sabbath. That is why Paul continued to do so AFTER they had already observed the Sabbath Acts 20.
1Cor.16 presents another conundrum for trad.christians.Upon the first day of the week let every one of you LAY by him IN STORE...means storing up Goods ready for collection when Paul came.He gave that request at Sabbath Service. had it ref to money he could have collected it after service or next day and carried it by himself. To lay by in store ref.to Fruit of the fields, gardens and orchards for the poor starving saints at Jerusalem where there was a famine.There was no food to be had that money could buy. Also Paul was to collect and transport the harvested produce with the help of other men. The gathering, storing and collecting was to take place after Sabbath during week-days beginning on the sunday the first day of the week - IT was never declared a day of rest by God.
 
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