Tell me again why legalization is so needed while its absence can't even stop (your own words) kids from "risking their lives everyday".
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Drug use and the religious.
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MW0082
Jesus 4 Profit.... =)~
of course it is..... Did you not say you don't sue drugs for the foriegn ingredients that are not self regulated? I believe you did, and we breathe using foriegn ingreadients not found in our system. So your are wrong sir...
You are very much so. My point was that ilegal drugs are not in our system already, for if we were high all the time we would fail as a society. Drugs are meant to be used recreationaly and responsible.
Come back to me with the signed report advocating support for "once in a while", then we can resume this one, shall we?
there are plenty of people who have researched this topic for years that ALL support it. try watching the documentary High on Hulu sometime. you may be surprised...
I am, not saying it's safer, I am saying IT IS safe... and fun
Same thing goes for nuts, whats your pont?
I didn't say you did, but you are against them.
How can you properly reflect those affects while it is still illegal? How can you tell me without actually knowing that legalizing drugs would be a bad thing?
How is that not judging me, exactly?
It's nothing against you personal, you have your facts wrong. that is not judging at all....
No you do not. you see this is the issue with people. they think their personal views should be everyone elses as well. Thats not a good thing.......... You have absolutley no right to tell someone what to do with their body as long as they are not hurting anyone. No right what so ever!!!
How so? How does me smoking a joint in my house affect you?
personal experience, we only use 10% of the brain and know even less. Drugs allow our brain to work differently, perceive differently, I can't tell you how many good ideas I ahve had high...
Nope, the responsibility is the person doing the drugs no one else. Same thing with ajack hammer, the person using it is responsible to use it properly...
here are two wonderful sources for you to ponder. penn and Teller has a show called ********, was very enlightening on why the war on drugs is bc. Second try High on Hulu, another great source that shows you why drugs should and will be legal.
I would also liek to point out something. You look at a place liek Amsterdam, whose crime went down by 70%, not just drug crime ALL crime. And they have aless percent of youth trying drugs than we do. pklease explain how this could be so? According to you the opposite should happen....
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MW0082
Jesus 4 Profit.... =)~
Tell me why Amsterdam has a smaller statistic of users when it's legal there?
I'm not taking the trouble to answer each of your claims anymore, but I will note that the claim that we only use 10% of our brains reminds one of Penn and Teller's show's name.
The Straight Dope: Do we really use only 10 percent of our brains?
snopes.com: Ten Percent of our Brains
10% of brain myth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Straight Dope: Do we really use only 10 percent of our brains?
snopes.com: Ten Percent of our Brains
10% of brain myth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I don't know. Do you?
MW0082
Jesus 4 Profit.... =)~
Yeah I do, when you take the sting and danger out of it, you take away a big portion of it's appeal...
It didn't work all that well with alcohol, now did it?
Wannabe Yogi
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Yes it did ! It cut out all the death and destruction of Gangs in the 1920's. City and state governments were owned by the mob. History sees American probation as a disaster in America.
While I definitely agree that many people (including myself to an extent) choose, or chose in the past, self-destructive lifestyle choices and that's why they turn to drugs for a quick fix (in my case, caffeine, in order to give my malnourished, low-energy body some sort of quick wake-up call), and therefore the best solution is to change lifestyle (which is what I'm slowly trying to do), I disagree that addiction itself should be disposed of, because I don't believe it can be. Getting addicted to things is part of the human condition; it's not on the same level as slavery.
...our bodies can breath just fine on their own. It's a small number of people who need outside help just to breathe.
And breath-control is a real discipline that can be practiced without any external help. (By help, in this case, I mean something that directly regulates breathing; I'm not talking about instruction from someone or something, or some sort of something, such as music or incense, to help relaxation and focus.)
...yes, it did.
no-body
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Drug use should be like religion; totally the business of the consenting, knowledgeable adult alone.
And to those of you who don't support legalization because of some uptight morality "b-but what about child pornography and murder those things are inevitable too but we don't legalize them" shut up. Drugs are just chemicals; items, they don't hurt anyone in and of themselves.
Mind your own business. If someone getting high is doing something destructive then give them consequences for their actions, not just because they imbibe something.
And to those of you who don't support legalization because of some uptight morality "b-but what about child pornography and murder those things are inevitable too but we don't legalize them" shut up. Drugs are just chemicals; items, they don't hurt anyone in and of themselves.
Mind your own business. If someone getting high is doing something destructive then give them consequences for their actions, not just because they imbibe something.
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Midnight Pete
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Blatantly untrue. Beyond ridiculous for anyone to even think that.
gnomon
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That might be true for you but all brain here.
I don't think 10% would be enough to allow me to hold it straight when I empty the bladder.
...I've NEVER seen drugs being compared to those.
The only one I think would be somewhat of a valid comparison (and even that would be slightly unfair) would be tobacco cigarettes because of the dangers of second-hand and third-hand smoke.
I think he meant others besides the user.
In some cases, such as tobacco cigarettes, it is blatantly untrue.
no-body
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How is that? Do they call the bomb squad in when they find a baggie of coke? We don't ban rat poison but we would if someone got high off it.
Drug use has consequences but it takes someone using them first. Excessive sex, television, fatty foods, et al have negative side effects too but we don't ban those things. It's already been gone over but all of the serious side effects of drug use come from it being on the black market, addiction in itself causes no problem if one has easy safe access to their drug of choice (I know this fact absolutely kills people who are extremely controlling and nosy)
Getting intoxicated in and of itself is not inherently wrong, sorry. We probably wouldn't have the technology and resources we do now if it was.
no-body
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I'm ok with them banning drugs that produce smoke as long as we start with cars and factories, etc.
Midnight Pete
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no-body
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More druggie nonsense.
Thank you for the startling amount of facts and insight to counter my claims
Like a lot of people that want to legalize drugs, I'm an ex "druggie" that has been completely clean and sober for several years, the strongest drug I use is a cup of tea or coffee, nor would want anything stronger even if every drug in existence was legalized.
I've had some great times on drugs but I have learned to put them behind me and move on they are personally not for me. The point is, everyone should have the choice.
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