Islam: Religion of Peace or Religion for War?

[DawudTalut]

Actions speaks loader than words, or scripture.

Reform the loudspeaker which speak wrong.

 

[psychoslice]

Reform the loudspeaker which speak wrong.

I wish you were right.

 

[DawudTalut]

I wish you were right.

By the grace of God, Ahmadiyya-Muslims under Khilafat are struggling for this.

 

[psychoslice]

By the grace of God, Ahmadiyya-Muslims under Khilafat are struggling for this.

And I wish them well, I do realize that most Muslims are good people, and that a handful are ruining it for all, I am not against Muslim.

 

[DawudTalut]

And I wish them well, I do realize that most Muslims are good people, and that a handful are ruining it for all, I am not against Muslim.

They wish best for you and your loved ones too.

 

[Pastek]

I don't know if you want to look at an article in The Atlantic, or not, but it explains my position very well (oh, and I held this position before reading the story). http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

No i haven't read the article it seems quite long and i don't have enought time right now, maybe later.

My wife's uncle went to Saudi Arabia in the 80's and he ended up in a sticky situation before the courts. I don't remember the details now, but as he explained it, the assumption was that he was guilty. He was set free before the day was out, but he told us he would never go back. As a Westerner you don't know what situation you might inadvertently find yourself facing. Also, there are the accounts of tourists being kidnapped and beheaded if ransoms aren't paid. This happened to a Canadian tourist last week. Another Canadian and his girlfriend are still being held along with a few other Westerners. I am sure none of them imagined they would be kidnapped while on holiday.

Ok. But i was talking about normal touristic countries such as Morroco, Dubai, Malaysia etc.
You can be kidnapped even in some countries like in South America, depends where you go.

 

[Jabar]

There we have it: the penalty for apostasy in Islam is death; and I am guessing you agree with this? Now the mullah in this particular video was a little less stringent than some. He believes it is not proper for just any Muslim to carry out an execution, but that it must fall to the proper authorities. Even the killing of Theo Van Gogh, a non-Muslim, was called an execution by this mullah. Islam supports murder in the modern world and you wonder why many of us have serious issues with the content of this religion?

Show me one verse in Qur'an that says it supports it.

 

[Jabar]

If only this was more practiced.

Well its like impossible for every single person to practice Islam according to real Islam, there will always be wrongdoers.

 

[Aquitaine]

Yeah, i believe in partial not all.

Not exactly.

Anyhow, do you think the Iraq war was necessary? I heard nearly 500,000 casualties.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/15/iraq-death-toll_n_4102855.html

So what would you say to the man in the video you linked when he stated that Mohammad ordered apostates' heads to be cut off?

Regarding Iraq, I am a strong opponent of the West's "War on Terror". I opposed the Afghanistan War, Iraq War, removal of Gaddafi in Libya and the "material support" of the FSA and other rebel militia groups in Syria. I believe my country (UK) should adopt a non-interventionist foreign policy, and to stop getting involved in unnecessary wars.

 

[Jabar]

So what would you say to the man in the video you linked when he stated that Mohammad ordered apostates' heads to be cut off?

Regarding Iraq, I am a strong opponent of the West's "War on Terror". I opposed the Afghanistan War, Iraq War, removal of Gaddafi in Libya and the "material support" of the FSA and other rebel militia groups in Syria. I believe my country (UK) should adopt a non-interventionist foreign policy, and to stop getting involved in unnecessary wars.

I would tell him to not think about Muhammad like that, what people are doing nowadays is not reflecting what the Prophet Muhammad was actually doing.

 

[Sapiens]

So ... what I said turns out to be true, there is no disagreement that the death penalty is demanded, there is just disagreement about who should perform the execution.

 

[Jabar]

So ... what I said turns out to be true, there is no disagreement that the death penalty is demanded, there is just disagreement about who should perform the execution.

No.

 

[Sapiens]

No.

No to what? No, the death penalty is not demanded or No, who should perform the execution is not the disagreement?

 

[Jabar]

No to what? No, the death penalty is not demanded or No, who should perform the execution is not the disagreement?

Is not demanded.

 

[Sapiens]

Is not demanded.

That is not what the religious authority that you presented said ... get your story straight.

 

[Jabar]

That is not what the religious authority that you presented said ... get your story straight.

Exactly.

But i do not agree with that portion.

 

[Sapiens]

Exactly.

But i do not agree with that portion.

Then I suggest you post authorities that you agree with.

 

[Aquitaine]

I would tell him to not think about Muhammad like that, what people are doing nowadays is not reflecting what the Prophet Muhammad was actually doing.

I am curious as to why you posted that video then if you don't agree with it(?).

 

[Jabar]

I am curious as to why you posted that video then if you don't agree with it(?).

I want to show you a video where he does not show his information properly.

 

[Jabar]

Then I suggest you post authorities that you agree with.

True.